From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tutorial incorrectly thinks emacs -Q uses customizations. Alarmist and confusing tutorial intro. Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:34:52 +0100 Message-ID: <45BC8A5C.2090405@gmail.com> References: <45BBFE5A.20501@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1169984108 11899 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2007 11:35:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Pretest-Bug , Drew Adams , Emacs-Devel To: Chris Moore Original-X-From: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 28 12:35:05 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gebp-emacs-pretest-bug@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HB8JL-0003Ol-7v for gebp-emacs-pretest-bug@gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:35:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HB8JK-0008IY-Or for gebp-emacs-pretest-bug@gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HB8JC-0008IB-GX for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:34:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HB8JA-0008Hz-FQ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:34:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HB8JA-0008Hw-AU; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:34:52 -0500 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HB8J9-0005qR-Ri; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:34:52 -0500 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-24.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.24]:63587 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HB8J7-0001A1-8w; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:34:50 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061207 Thunderbird/1.5.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000707-0, 2007-01-27), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HB8J7-0001A1-8w. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1HB8J7-0001A1-8w 3b15a1cc06f38de0eec3eade87fe172f X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for CVS Emacs." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:16845 gmane.emacs.devel:65563 Archived-At: Chris Moore wrote: > "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > >> Drew Adams wrote: > >>> Clicking either of the "more info" links leads to further incorrect >>> information... > >> Please tell what the incorrect information is. > > I'm guessing it's this: > > The default Emacs binding for the key is the command > `backward-kill-word'. However, your customizations have rebound it to > the command `nil'. > > "the command `nil'"? `nil' isn't a command! Ah, yes. It is part of the same bug. I initially misunderstood the translation key maps and their function versus the key lookup functions. I think the problem Drew saw only shows up on w32, but I am not quite sure. If the tutorial is started after emacs -Q on GNU/Linux, does it looks ok then?