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From: "Davis Herring" <herring@lanl.gov>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' when  read-only?
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:24:14 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45998.128.165.123.18.1190647454.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACMEAECDAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>

> 2. It doesn't really help users see that such keys are, in effect,
> available for binding in such read-only contexts. That was a main
> motivation behind my proposal.

Exactly how much help does an semi-knowledgeable user (who knows enough to
want to bind a key) need beyond the error?

"Hmm... dired... I'd like a key to convert DOS to Unix line endings.  How
about M-u for "Make Unix"?  That sounds good."

  M-u
 Buffer is read-only: #<buffer contrib>

 "Huh?"

  C-h c M-u
 M-u is bound to upcase-word

 "Oh, that's a nice command.  But it doesn't work...?"

  M-u
 Buffer is read-only: #<buffer contrib>

 "Yup, it's taken, but it doesn't work here.  A shame, too.  I could have
used it!"

I don't see the reaction to C-h c proceeding like that, but rather
 "Aha.  Good to know, but I can obviously use it here, since it doesn't
work anyway."

Davis

PS - Never mind that there's no command to which to bind a key that does
what this hypothetical user wants.  They found the defun scrawled on a
blackboard in a sewer or something.

-- 
This product is sold by volume, not by mass.  If it appears too dense or
too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during
shipping.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-24 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-22  1:18 TAB for non-editing modes Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-22  8:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-25 20:29   ` S-SPC for non-editing modes (was: TAB for non-editing modes) Juri Linkov
2007-09-25 21:14     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 21:59       ` S-SPC for non-editing modes Juri Linkov
2007-09-25 22:12         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 22:09       ` S-SPC for non-editing modes (was: TAB for non-editing modes) Andreas Schwab
2007-09-22 15:47 ` TAB for non-editing modes Richard Stallman
2007-09-22 16:35   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-22 19:01     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-22 21:23       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-22 21:40         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-22 21:51       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-22 22:16         ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' when read-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-23  0:37           ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' whenread-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-23  1:20             ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined'whenread-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-23  1:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-23  2:18                 ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' when read-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-23 18:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-23 20:42                     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24  1:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24  2:02                         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 15:24                       ` Davis Herring [this message]
2007-09-24 16:12                         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 17:38                           ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:49                             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:14                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-25 10:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:00                               ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' whenread-only? Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:19                     ` bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' when read-only? Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 14:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-22 22:44         ` TAB for non-editing modes Drew Adams
2007-09-23 14:48           ` Bastien
2007-09-23 23:59           ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 15:05       ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 16:43         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24  0:11           ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-24  0:33             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24  0:46               ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-23 15:04     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-24  0:56       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-24 18:20         ` Richard Stallman

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