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From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: National Language Support Functions
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:35:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <459705DD.8020206@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4596A238.8010408@gmail.com>

Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote:
> Indeed I do. I said you cannot follow the guidelines. I said some ways 
> to diverge from them were worse than other ways.
Which is worse than the other is a matter of opinion, and judging by the 
use of the words IF, USUALLY and MUST in the snippets from the 
accessibility guidelines I have read, your opinion differs from the 
source you are claiming backs you up:

> Keyboard shortcuts can be found in the menus of programs, or, if a 
> letter is underlined on a menu, that usually means pressing the ALT 
> key in combination with the underlined key has the same effect as 
> clicking that menu item.
> An application must not affect any system-wide shortcut keys (a key or 
> a combination of keys used to perform a command), such as the Windows 
> logo key that opens the *Start* menu.

But what these guidelines say is not really important for considering 
what to do in Emacs. What is important is what users want, and what we 
can achieve technically. So far, the only patch I've seen submitted in 
this area swallowed the Windows logo keys so that neither Emacs nor 
Windows could see them, and there were other concerns that Eli and 
myself had regarding the removal of the low level hook when Emacs 
crashes, and the need to perform low level processing on many more keys 
in order to use those keys as modifiers, that have not been addressed as 
far as I am aware.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-31  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <458AB581.7090303@student.lu.se>
     [not found] ` <458AF7AC.5030500@student.lu.se>
     [not found]   ` <umz5hlyrm.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <458B2295.7010806@student.lu.se>
2006-12-22 12:14       ` National Language Support Functions Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-22 12:35         ` Jason Rumney
2006-12-22 12:57           ` Jason Rumney
2006-12-22 15:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-22 19:51               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-12-22 16:32         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2006-12-22 20:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-23  0:54             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2006-12-25  6:17         ` Kenichi Handa
2006-12-25 20:47           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-26  0:59             ` Kenichi Handa
2006-12-25 22:17           ` Jason Rumney
2006-12-28 13:03           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-29  9:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-29 15:48               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-29 16:23                 ` Jan Djärv
2006-12-29 16:45                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-29 10:31             ` Jason Rumney
2006-12-29 15:39               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-29 16:14                 ` Jason Rumney
2006-12-29 16:32                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-29 19:37                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-12-29 19:50                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-12-29 20:29                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-12-29 20:48                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-29 21:23                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-12-29 21:48                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-29 22:03                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-12-29 22:22                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-29 23:51                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-12-30  0:14                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-30  0:32                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-12-30  0:42                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-30  1:10                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-12-30  1:27                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-30 15:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-30 15:53                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-30 16:38                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-30 17:30                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-31  0:35                                             ` Jason Rumney [this message]
2006-12-31  2:22                                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-30 14:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-30 15:21                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-30 16:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-12-30 17:36                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-30  6:24                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-30 10:28                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)

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