From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: when do we remove backward compatibility definitions? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:15:03 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4558a0a5-4253-005c-e8e7-b9a1b99d2bee@cs.ucla.edu> References: <834lpncsce.fsf@gnu.org> <831skrcqtb.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1511334948 16807 195.159.176.226 (22 Nov 2017 07:15:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 07:15:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 Cc: Emacs Development To: Sam Steingold Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 22 08:15:44 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eHPG0-0003rB-7V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 08:15:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38139 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHPG7-0007Eh-HN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:15:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35594) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHPFV-0007Ak-OB for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:15:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHPFS-0000k5-Jx for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:15:09 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:38562) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eHPFS-0000in-Db; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:15:06 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6A1160FA1; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:15:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id v3bxlERPLYK8; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:15:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D7C1610B3; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bfM3mp_LnN5w; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:15:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.154.30.119]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65462160F81; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:15:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220349 Archived-At: Sam Steingold wrote: > these seem clear-cut: >=20 > mail/sendmail.el:(make-obsolete-variable 'mail-yank-hooks 'mail-citatio= n-hook "19.34") > mh-e/mh-letter.el(mh-make-obsolete-variable 'mh-yank-hooks 'mail-citati= on-hook "19.34") Yes, removing those makes sense. > these are more controversial: >=20 > select.el: > ;; Only declared obsolete in 23.3. > (define-obsolete-function-alias 'x-selection 'x-get-selection "at least= 19.34") Since this wasn't declared obsolete until 23.3 and 23.1 is still used eno= ugh,=20 I'd leave it in for now. > subr.el: > ;; Lisp manual only updated in 22.1. > (define-obsolete-variable-alias 'executing-macro 'executing-kbd-macro > "before 19.34") 22.1 is old enough so that alias can go, if you ask me.