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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: jet@gyve.org, yamaoka@jpl.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	handa@m17n.org
Subject: Re: raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:56:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4549A494.1000801@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1GfUQN-0006RA-LH@fencepost.gnu.org>



Richard Stallman skrev:
>     In either case, I think we should first make sure this is not a bug in the
>     window manager rather than in Emacs.  To me at least, it sounds like a plain
>     bug in the window-manager.
> 
> Can we find an Xpert who is in a position to say?
> 

Not claiming to be an Xpert, but IMHO the behaviour is a bit surprising.  If 
you follow ICCCAM it does not say a WM may intercept XRaiseWindow.  But on the 
other hand, it does not say a WM can't do that either.

The new spec on the other hand, do say a WM may choose to ignore 
XRaiseRequests.  It says that to really get it raised, one should use 
_NET_RESTACK_WINDOW.

A side note, _NET_ACTIVATE_WINDOW does more that XRaiseWindow.  If your window 
is on another workspace/desktop, XRaiseWindow does nothing. 
_NET_ACTIVATE_WINDOW on the other hand (at least with Gnome/Metacity), 
switches to that desktop/workspace and then does what XRaiseWindow does.
In contrast to what wmctrl -R does, it moves the window to the current 
desktop/workspace and then raises it.

Additionally, there are new states for windows besides 
Normal/Withdrawn/Iconified.  There are shaded windows (only the title bar is 
shown) also.  _NET_ACTIVATE_WINDOW works with these as well.

I think XRaiseWindow does not work with windows that are on 
desktops/workspaces that aren't the current one, so I guess some WM:s choose 
to ignore all XRaiseWindow requests just to avoid trouble.

	Jan D.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-02  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-31 11:12 raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 Kenichi Handa
2006-10-31 11:57 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-10-31 12:24   ` Jan Djärv
2006-10-31 15:37   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-10-31 17:19     ` Jan D.
2006-10-31 19:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-01  7:08         ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-01 23:15         ` Chong Yidong
2006-11-01 23:21           ` David Kastrup
2006-11-02 16:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-02 21:47             ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  3:50     ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-11-01  4:51       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-11-01  2:14   ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  7:28     ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-01 16:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-02  4:43       ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02  7:56         ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2006-11-02 16:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-03  7:54             ` Jan D.
2006-11-03  8:55           ` Jan D.
2006-11-03  8:59   ` Jan D.
2006-11-09 10:27     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-11-01  2:14 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  7:24   ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-02  4:42     ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02  7:30       ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-02  8:23         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-03  7:07         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02 17:46 ` Chip Coldwell
2006-11-02 19:25   ` Chip Coldwell
     [not found] <b9yoe9xece4.fsf@jpl.org>
2005-06-27 23:41 ` raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 (was Re: `make-frame' makes...) Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-06-28 15:48   ` raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 Johan Bockgård
2007-09-14  6:24   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-09-16 10:25     ` Jan Djärv

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