From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Roehler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Emacs-Lisp-Workshop Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:32:16 +0200 Message-ID: <4524ED40.4030108@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1160047990 11136 80.91.229.2 (5 Oct 2006 11:33:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 05 13:33:07 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GVRTA-0007nh-W0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:32:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GVRTA-00081N-7I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:32:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GVRSy-00080x-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:32:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GVRSv-0007vM-Um for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:32:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GVRSv-0007us-Ov for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:32:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.187] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GVRZZ-0004K9-F2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:39:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.190.140.218] (helo=[192.168.178.23]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1GVRSu0za3-0003JP; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:32:36 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) Original-To: emacs-devel X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:62d13292e0fce6aaed56aaadcb96352d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:60423 Archived-At: Hi everybody, I miss a group, where Emacs-Lisp solutions may be discussed. Such a group could be named Emacs-Workshop, as Emacs is better known than Emacs-Lisp; however Emacs-Lisp-Workshop would address the intention. The existing groups are fine. But there is an aspect of Emacs/Emacs-Lisp which is not dealed with as such. The help groups are centered around user questions as any other help groups too. Emacs-devel deals with an upcoming architecture. Still the bug-groups. Not covered is, what I conceive as special with Emacs/Emacs-Lisp, what's really exiting: it's capabilities as a workbench in a wide sense, not just for writing programs. Most profitable I experienced Emacs in combination with self-made tiny tools the kind bash-scripts are. Also as a crossing point or glue of several existing scripts. At the other side: It's still difficult enough to design the needed tools. Quite often it works somehow but could be better written. Or I could reach my goal faster. As it concerns mostly limited tasks, to collect and introduce these utils into the Emacs-Distribution mostly would not be worthwhile. What about to have some place to exchange views around that kind of tools. Thanks __ Andreas Roehler