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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215508 Archived-At: On 6/7/17 10:27 PM, Clément Pit-Claudel wrote: > Uh? What I pointed out was that new code wouldn't work with old Emacsen. That's a valid concern, and the only tangible downside of introducing %` and %' that I'm aware of. > Maybe I misunderstood your proposal? As far as I can tell, the change you propose will force me to write every `message' call like this in my packages: > > (if (< emacs-version 26) > (message "Hello, `world'!") > (message "Hello, %`world%'!")) > > Am I missing something? Or wait until you only need to support Emacs 26 and newer. Not a huge loss, IMO. That time will come.