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From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>,
	emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, ihs_4664@yahoo.com,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, richard.stallman@gnu.org,
	christopher.ian.moore@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:32:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <451045C2.3020400@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk63z7s2s.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier skrev:
>>> Also IIRC a perfectly valid utf-8 buffer may contain eight-bit-* chars, use
>>> to keep track of valid unicode chars that have no corresponding character in
>>> emacs-mule.  So the presence of eight-bit-* chars does not imply that the
>>> utf-8 encoded form of the text will contain an invalid utf-8 byte sequence.
>>>       
>
>   
>> Yes, but such eight-bit-* chars can be detected by checking
>> `untranslated-utf-8' property.
>>     
>
> Sure, but the current code doesn't do that.
>
>   
>>>> And, if Emacs owns a unibyte string, perhaps the right thing
>>>> is to make it multibyte according to the current
>>>> lang. env. (by string-make-multibyte) at first, then encode
>>>> it by utf-8.
>>>>         
>
>   
>>> That sounds terribly fragile/buggy.
>>>       
>
>   
>> Then, what do you think Emacs should do in such a case?
>>     
>
> I think we can't know what should be done, so we should strive for
> simplicity and try to avoid losing information.  I.e. just return the
> unibyte string as-is.
>   

That was the problem the original report was about.  Gtk+-applications
print big warnings.  And there is no agreed upon selection type that
represents just  bytes.

W.r.t the standards, Emacs has two choices, return a valid UTF8-string
or don't return anything at all.  I'm beginning to think the second
option is the best.

    Jan D.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-19 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1158280855.14121.69.camel@chrislap.madeupdomain.com>
2006-09-15  7:07 ` Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text Jan Djärv
2006-09-15 16:30   ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-09-16 11:31     ` Jan D.
2006-09-16 17:25       ` Jan D.
2006-09-19  5:05         ` Kenichi Handa
2006-09-19  6:15           ` Jan Djärv
2006-09-19  7:14             ` Kenichi Handa
2006-09-19 10:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-09-19 11:14             ` Kenichi Handa
2006-09-19 16:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-09-19 19:32                 ` Jan D. [this message]
2006-09-20  2:20                 ` Kenichi Handa
2006-10-19  7:19                   ` Jan Djärv

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