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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: [rudalics@gmx.at: Re: [simon.marshall@misys.com:	mouse-autoselect-window needs a	de lay]]
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:59:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44FD9EC5.2010000@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85d5aalaoe.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

 >>A simple delay is standard for focus follows mouse policies.  I don't
 >>really want to omit that.
 >
 >
 > It is not at all standard.  For example, GNOME does not offer anything
 > like that in its Window Preferences.  What it _does_ offer is a dialog
 >
 > Window Selection
 >
 > [ ] Select windows when the mouse moves over them
 >
 >     [ ] Raise selected windows after an interval
 >     Interval before raising: [0.0-10.0, default 0.5] seconds
 >
 > Deactivating any of those lines will deactivate the following lines.
 > The default is "off" for all options.

I thought about KDE's "delay focus".  Anyway `mouse-autoselect-window'
was and is by default nil.  The question Kim raised was whether mouse
quiescence should be considered in the first place when delayed
autoselection is on.  In this context I considered a simple timeout
"standard" because I know of implementations based on timeouts.  I'm not
aware of attempts to check mouse quiescence with respect to focus
follows mouse.

 > I actually know of no window manager offering a delay before select.
 > If at all, they have delay before raise.

In general, window managers don't have the problem that selecting an
option from a menu-/toolbar should be interpreted in the context of a
particular window showing a particular buffer.

 >>You can always set the delay to a very small value.  In my
 >>experience less than 0.2 seconds never sensibly delays selection but
 >>may select the window too quickly.  It depends on your mouse mileage
 >>though, personally I like nervous mice.
 >
 >
 > And unloaded machines and non-networked X11 connections.  But not
 > everybody is running Emacs on a machine of his dreams all of the time.

Correct.  That's why this has to be more customizable.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-05 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-03 15:17 [rudalics@gmx.at: Re: [simon.marshall@misys.com: mouse-autoselect-window needs a de lay]] Richard Stallman
2006-09-03 16:02 ` David Kastrup
2006-09-03 16:37   ` David Kastrup
2006-09-04  9:16   ` martin rudalics
2006-09-04 14:05     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-05  9:21       ` martin rudalics
2006-09-05 11:02         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-05 11:06           ` David Kastrup
2006-09-05 12:53           ` martin rudalics
2006-09-05 13:12             ` David Kastrup
2006-09-05 15:59               ` martin rudalics [this message]
2006-09-04 17:18     ` Richard Stallman
2006-09-03 17:05 ` Chong Yidong
2006-09-04  9:27   ` martin rudalics
2006-09-04 14:07     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-03 21:43 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-05 15:20 ` Stefan Monnier

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