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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Why are <next> and <prior> not called <page down> and <page up>?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:31:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F75524.60907@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EIENLHALHGIMHGDOLMIMEEPKCKAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>

Drew Adams wrote:
>     > <prior> and <next> are standard names, which means that users
>     > can find things out about them (e.g. Google).
>
>     Are you seriously saying that it is more simple to find something about
>     the usage of these keys if you use "next" than "page down"?
>
> Well, I don't know whether it is easier to search for one or the other. The
> point is that one is a standard name, so _if_ you can find doc on it then
> you have found doc about many things (e.g. apps) involving that key.
>   
Can you please explain what standard you refer to?

> And? Most users don't know that the `left' key is the left-arrow either.
> Should we call it `<-'?
>   
Are they not mostly called "left arrow" etc? Talking about them together 
as just "up, down, left, right" makes it rather easy to understand I 
guess. At least that was the case for me.

> With your argument, we would not distinguish numeric keypad keys from the
> identically labeled keys on the main keyboard pad. The keyboard labels only
> get you so far; they don't get you to any technical info on the key
> definitions (standard), and they aren't even sufficient to uniquely identify
> keys.
>   
Good point, but maybe stretched to far. Of course we should be clear enough.

> And what about all the variants of the TAB key (ISO this and that, <tab> vs
> C-i, etc.)? In terms of key labels, they might all be labeled "Tab", but
> Emacs users must sometimes distinguish them.
>   
Are you not mixing different levels here? Can't we be clear enough by 
just talking about the physical keyboard?

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-31 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-31 15:57 Why are <next> and <prior> not called <page down> and <page up>? Lennart Borgman
2006-08-31 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-08-31 17:09   ` Jason Rumney
2006-08-31 18:55     ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-31 20:34       ` Drew Adams
2006-08-31 20:45         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-31 21:10           ` Drew Adams
2006-08-31 21:31             ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2006-08-31 22:00               ` Drew Adams
2006-08-31 22:19                 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-09-01  2:06                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-09-01  5:08                     ` Lennart Borgman
2006-09-01  6:29                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-09-01 17:00                       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-09-01  0:47         ` David Abrahams
2006-09-01  9:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-09-01 21:57         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-09-01 22:31           ` Drew Adams
2006-09-02  7:05             ` David Kastrup
2006-09-02  7:53               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-09-02 13:46                 ` Drew Adams
2006-09-03 14:53                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-09-03 15:49                     ` Drew Adams
2006-09-02 21:49           ` Jason Rumney
2006-09-03 14:52             ` Lennart Borgman
2006-09-05 20:06               ` Kevin Rodgers

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