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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cua-mode and the tutorial
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:57:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44EB294C.8060503@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m364gk3jbb.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>

Kim F. Storm wrote:
>> A possible solution is perhaps to tell replace C-v in the tutorial
>> with the actual key to use. However that requires rewriting the text
>> since there are also sentences like "do it by holding down the CONTROL
>> key while typing v". (And there are many languages to rewrite.) Maybe
>> that sentence could be removed?
>>     
>
> It could.  But again there are many languages to consider, and
> this is part of text files, not generated in Lisp.
>
>   
>>> It would be much better if you just placed a few yellow lines
>>> near the top with the following wording:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Having less information there is maybe a solution, yes. And using help
>> buffer for details. However I do believe that the tutorial should try
>> to tell the actual key bindings that the user will use. Is not that
>> much easier for those that use CUA mode for example?
>>     
>
> But it gives it in the wrong language (except for the English tutorial).
>
> Having just a few lines in English is ok IMO.
>   
Or maybe have them in the language choosen in form of some specially 
marked text in the text file?

I would like some more feedback from other on your suggestion above 
before I proceed.


> I hope so :-)  but with cua-mode enabled, many basic things in 
> the tutorial could be explained quite differently -- but there 
> is no way to do than in >1 languages.
>   
I would like pointers to CUA mode att relevant places (but not on too 
many places) in the manual.

> I don't really care that much (it's a long time since I needed to run
> the tutorial, and I never got used to the native bindings anyway).
>   
I think we might be a bit biased.

> Maybe you could highlight [yellow background] C-v (and similar
> bindings used in the tutorial) if they have non-standard bindings.
> Then users will be alerted to the fact that they don't work as
> expected and they should consult the instructions at the beginning of
> the tutorial!  You could even put a tool-tip on them to show the
> actual binding to use instead.
>   
I did that in one version. I made links going to the yellow part at the 
top. I could put it back.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-22 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <44C8F069.1070002@student.lu.se>
2006-08-22 13:12 ` cua-mode and the tutorial Kim F. Storm
2006-08-22 13:26   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-22 14:30     ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-22 15:02       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-22 15:57         ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2006-08-22 18:17       ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-23  4:06     ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-23  4:37       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-24  5:20         ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-23  7:21       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-24  5:20         ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-24  7:30           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-25 20:25             ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-25 22:12               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-26 12:22                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-26 12:44                   ` David Kastrup
2006-08-27 14:34                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-26 14:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-08-26 15:07                     ` Drew Adams
2006-08-26 21:15                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-27 14:34                       ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-27 15:06                         ` David Kastrup
2006-08-28 22:09                           ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-27 21:30                         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-26 21:14                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-28  9:52                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-28 10:07                       ` David Kastrup
2006-08-28 11:21                         ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-29 17:18                           ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-27  8:35             ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-28  9:52               ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-28 10:17                 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-08-29 17:18                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-29 17:55                     ` Drew Adams
2006-08-29 18:13                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-28 22:32                 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-29 17:18                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-31 15:10                     ` Lennart Borgman
2006-09-21 14:24                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-22 14:05   ` Lennart Borgman

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