From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TUTORIAL and scroll bar Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:21:44 +0200 Message-ID: <44DADE88.8040102@swipnet.se> References: <878xly60md.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <44DAD1FF.4030603@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1155194588 6544 80.91.229.2 (10 Aug 2006 07:23:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 10 09:23:04 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4sf-00017D-UK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:23:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4sf-0006MX-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:23:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4sQ-0006Lh-PU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4sP-0006Js-0x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB4sO-0006Jp-PL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:22:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.9.183] (helo=av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GB4x9-0003vc-Ai; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:27:39 -0400 Original-Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id D267637EC0; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:22:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42D237E5E; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:22:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from coolsville.localdomain (81-235-205-204-no59.tbcn.telia.com [81.235.205.204]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C39B37E44; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:22:36 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58254 Archived-At: Miles Bader skrev: > Xtk (and ATK for that matter) scrollbars use a very clever and handy > definition for the left/right mouse keys: a left mouse-click in the > scrollbar scrolls so that the line next to the mouse pointer is at to > the top of the window; a right mouse-click scrolls so that the line at > the top of the window is next to the mouse-pointer. > > Thus you can intuitively and precisely control the amount by which the > window scrolls due to mouse l/r scrollbar clicks (near the top of the > bar = "scroll a little", near the bottom = "scroll a lot"). Ok, but should we move Motif scroll bars to the right also then? They don't behave like that either. David Kastrup skrev: > GTK is nice, but its scroll bars suck as badly as almost anybody > else's. Some years ago I asked on the GTK+ developer list whether > they would be thinking of some option to put into .gtkrc-2.0 to fix > that for people who could live without the dumbed-down bars of GTK+, > but nobody was particularly interested in taking that up. > They seem to be content with the current behaviour. You can't even remap buttons, they are hardcoded in the C-code. Jan D.