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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144646 Archived-At: On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Am I the only one getting frustrated by people using a git mirror of >> Emacs, and then sending bug reports about what they find? > > Nope. You make the points very well. These are the (only) reasons that I use bzr, and I'm probably not alone in this case. While people are used to git, and can be forgiven for falling in love with git after living with cvs or subversion, it's really not that hard to use bzr. Can we add some sort of hook or check in report-emacs-bug to cover this case? Perhaps if emacs knows it was built from a repository instead of a release (there are 4 parts to emacs-version), then it inserts a message like ``Thank you for helping with Emacs! Unless you are using the GNU Bazaar repository of emacs, you might wish to check the latest source via bazaar or at http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk before reporting a problem.''? Of course, if we ever decided to include a bzr revno/etc in the environment, that could also help. *Chad