From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs geometry Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:02:43 +0100 Message-ID: <44C79223.10504@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153930160 1959 80.91.229.2 (26 Jul 2006 16:09:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 26 18:09:17 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5lwP-0003ig-LJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:09:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5lwP-0007LC-9p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G5lqq-0003Wo-5T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:03:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G5lql-0003V7-Pf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5lql-0003V1-BE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.86.207.50] (helo=exchange.integrasp.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G5lsK-00034Q-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:04:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.111.61] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by exchange.integrasp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NMA810GM; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:54:33 +0100 Original-Received: from 192.168.111.61 ([192.168.111.61] helo=[192.168.111.61]) by ASSP-nospam; 26 Jul 2006 16:54:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 Original-To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57664 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > Please, someone tell me how many Windows users reposition their task bar to > the *top* of the screen? Probably more than care where exactly on the screen their Emacs frames appear, and insist that it is not they who should have to configure the initial position of their Emacs frame. > For the 3 users worldwide who might do that: they > can use default-frame-alist or hack the registry to solve their "problem" The Emacs title-bar being off the usable portion of the screen is a genuine problem. While it is possible to manually move such frames, it is not obvious, and many users may not be familiar with the procedure. The desire to have Emacs appear in the same place every time without explicitly configuring it to do so is *not* a genuine problem. You are just ranting Drew, please stop!