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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changing of line format and undo
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:45:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4499CC13.501@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33003.128.165.123.239.1150926847.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov>

Stuart D. Herring wrote:
> Lennart Borgman wrote:
>   
>> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>     
>>> If you mean "C-x RET f", then it doesn't really change anything.  It
>>> just sets a buffer-local variable to some value.  So there's nothing
>>> to undo.
>>>
>>>       
>> That is an internal Emacs perpective. From a users point of view there
>> is truly a change. If you for example change the line endings the file
>> will be saved with this new line endings.
>>     
>
> Doing
>
> (add-hook 'local-write-file-functions 'erase-buffer)
>
> also would change how files were written out.  Changing how Emacs works
> (via variables like the coding systems, hooks, or outright rewriting
> functions) is not within the scope of the undo mechanism, which is for
> modifications to text, not Emacs.
>   
I would say that the line endings is a border case. I would expect most 
users to look like it like changing the text (even if that is not what 
is done internally). However I realize it is a lot of work to fix this 
border case and it is perhaps not worth the trouble.
>   
>> BTW should not changes of this kind also set the buffer to modified?
>>     
>
> If and only if they should be undoable (which they shouldn't, IMHO).  It
> would be very odd to have a buffer unmodified before and after an undo, or
> to be marked modified with no way (via undo) to remove that marking.
>   
My mistake. As David pointed out the buffer is marked modified if you 
change the line endings in a supported way. It is natural to make the 
buffer modified since perhaps it will not get saved otherwise. 
Unfortunately this change is not undoable and that is a bit confusing 
sometimes.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-21 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-20 22:15 Changing of line format and undo Lennart Borgman
2006-06-21  3:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-06-21 15:12   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-06-21 15:14     ` David Kastrup
2006-06-21 15:50       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-06-21 16:31         ` David Kastrup
2006-06-21 16:47           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-06-21 17:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-02 15:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-07-02 21:19               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-07-03 15:05                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-07-03 21:30                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-07-04 12:55                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-21 14:27               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-21 16:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-08-22  7:42                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-22  9:26                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-22  9:39                     ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-23  4:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-23  4:11                         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-28  9:52                           ` Richard Stallman
2006-06-21 21:54     ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-06-21 22:45       ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2006-06-22  3:24       ` Eli Zaretskii

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