From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Semi-unhelpful error message given when trying to (provide 'CUA-mode) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:53:53 +0200 Message-ID: <44717C21.1040600@student.lu.se> References: <85fyj4bl8p.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20060520.211854.71848142.wl@gnu.org> <85lkswa29b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <44701B91.60606@swipnet.se> <85wtcfbt3n.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4470A6DB.3020504@swipnet.se> <85d5e79ipp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4470EF05.5070408@student.lu.se> <44715134.7050803@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148288088 6167 80.91.229.2 (22 May 2006 08:54:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 22 10:54:45 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fi6BP-0000Ey-Ut for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:54:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fi6BP-0006fL-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:54:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fi6BE-0006f8-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:54:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fi6BC-0006ew-Lv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fi6BC-0006et-HH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:54:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fi6F9-0007pz-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:58:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.072.1) id 446DCC030007C049; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:53:54 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) Original-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= In-Reply-To: <44715134.7050803@swipnet.se> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55014 Archived-At: Jan Dj=E4rv wrote: >> As far as I know F10 also always works on w32 for activating the=20 >> menus. However the most usual way on w32 is to use the ALT key. Is=20 >> that the usual way in Gnome/Gtk+ too? > > Most usual depends on what the user do, but keyboard shortcuts for=20 > menus, using ALT + some key, are available if the menus are set up=20 > like that by the program. Emacs does not. What is missing in Emacs here? I know from what you told me before that=20 Emacs does not setup accelerator keys for the menus (which at least on=20 w32 are underlined characters). However on w32 this is not needed to=20 activate the menus with ALT. It suffices to just press ALT. (Usually=20 once but sometimes in some apps twice, which I believe is due to=20 somewhat bad handling of accessibility in those programs.)