* An ls that does not understand --dired
@ 2012-07-22 22:29 Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-07-22 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello!
/bin/ls in Mac OS X 10.6.8 (and maybe more releases) does not understand "--dired", only "-dired". Is there a way to make dired use "-dired" instead of "--dired"? (Besides using gls from GNU Coreutils.)
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Greetings
Pete
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* Re: An ls that does not understand --dired
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@ 2012-07-23 0:27 ` Ellen Taylor
2012-07-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn
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From: Ellen Taylor @ 2012-07-23 0:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
> Hello!
>
> /bin/ls in Mac OS X 10.6.8 (and maybe more releases) does not understand "--dired", only "-dired". Is there a way to make dired use "-dired" instead of "--dired"? (Besides using gls from GNU Coreutils.)
>
> --
> Greetings
>
> Pete
>
> No matter which way you ride, it's uphill and against the wind.
> – First Law of Bicycling
You need to set 'dired-listing-switches'.
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2012-07-23 0:27 ` Ellen Taylor
@ 2012-07-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2012-07-24 22:44 ` Stefan Vollmar
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From: Tassilo Horn @ 2012-07-23 7:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Ellen Taylor < ellen@nospam.invalid > writes:
Hi!
>> /bin/ls in Mac OS X 10.6.8 (and maybe more releases) does not
>> understand "--dired", only "-dired". Is there a way to make dired use
>> "-dired" instead of "--dired"? (Besides using gls from GNU
>> Coreutils.)
The use of "--dired" is hard-coded in `dired-insert-directory'.
> You need to set 'dired-listing-switches'.
Dired checks if ls supports --dired. In Peter's case, it'll determine
that it's not supported. So adding "-dired" to `dired-listing-switches'
should in fact do the job.
Bye,
Tassilo
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* Re: An ls that does not understand --dired
2012-07-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2012-07-24 22:44 ` Stefan Vollmar
2012-07-25 9:37 ` Peter Dyballa
2012-07-25 11:32 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Stefan Vollmar @ 2012-07-24 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tassilo Horn, Peter_Dyballa; +Cc: David Reitter, help-gnu-emacs
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Dear Tassilo,
dear Ellen,
dear Peter,
I am afraid that adding "-dired" to dired-listing-switches did not solve the problem, at least not for current versions of Aquamacs 3 (it looks like an Emacs 24 Mac-specific problem). However,
(setq dired-use-ls-dired nil)
does (error message gone). There is a caveat about "unusual" file names (e.g. those with leading spaces) in the documentation of dired-use-ls-dired, so maybe this solution is not for everybody.
Warm regards,
Stefan
On 23.07.2012, at 09:00, Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Ellen Taylor < ellen@nospam.invalid > writes:
>
> Hi!
>
>>> /bin/ls in Mac OS X 10.6.8 (and maybe more releases) does not
>>> understand "--dired", only "-dired". Is there a way to make dired use
>>> "-dired" instead of "--dired"? (Besides using gls from GNU
>>> Coreutils.)
>
> The use of "--dired" is hard-coded in `dired-insert-directory'.
>
>> You need to set 'dired-listing-switches'.
>
> Dired checks if ls supports --dired. In Peter's case, it'll determine
> that it's not supported. So adding "-dired" to `dired-listing-switches'
> should in fact do the job.
>
> Bye,
> Tassilo
>
>
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* Re: An ls that does not understand --dired
2012-07-24 22:44 ` Stefan Vollmar
@ 2012-07-25 9:37 ` Peter Dyballa
2012-07-25 11:32 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-07-25 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Vollmar; +Cc: David Reitter, Tassilo Horn, help-gnu-emacs
Am 25.07.2012 um 00:44 schrieb Stefan Vollmar:
> I am afraid that adding "-dired" to dired-listing-switches did not solve the problem, at least not for current versions of Aquamacs 3 (it looks like an Emacs 24 Mac-specific problem).
Indeed, elder Emacsen, versions 23.x, do understand a settings like
(setq dired-listing-switches "-ahlw -dired")
in the site init file and obey it, i.e., they can work with /bin/ls. All the GNU Emacs 24.x versions fail to obey. In earlier version it was also possible to set
(setq insert-directory-program "gls" dired-use-ls-dired t)
This looks like being worth a bug report.
--
Greetings
Pete
Don't force it; get a larger hammer.
– Anthony's Law of Force
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* Re: An ls that does not understand --dired
2012-07-24 22:44 ` Stefan Vollmar
2012-07-25 9:37 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2012-07-25 11:32 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2012-07-25 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Vollmar; +Cc: David Reitter, Tassilo Horn, help-gnu-emacs
Am 25.07.2012 um 00:44 schrieb Stefan Vollmar:
> However,
>
> (setq dired-use-ls-dired nil)
>
> does (error message gone). There is a caveat about "unusual" file names (e.g. those with leading spaces) in the documentation of dired-use-ls-dired, so maybe this solution is not for everybody.
Using the above setting is really bad: no directory listing possible when some directory in the absolute path contains a SPACE…
When you can install gls from the GNU Coreutils the settings
(setq ls-lisp-use-insert-directory-program t)
(setq insert-directory-program "gls")
allow GNU Emacs 24.1 to use gls.
A second problem exists with possible use of the variable dired-listing-switches. With GNU gls I use "-ahlN" which has to be with the system's ls "-ahlw".
--
Greetings
Pete
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