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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258979 Archived-At: > The defaults are selected for the common usage patterns. It is not > clear to me that the test case you presented is common. But if it is, > perhaps we do need to consider changing the default. >=20 > Does anyone else think this is common usage, to have a minibuffer-only > frame while other frames also have minibuffers? >=20 > Alternatively, perhaps minibuffers activated in minibuffer-only frames > should behave specially in this regard? FWIW (not much, I'm afraid): I can't speak to this, as Emacs 27 has totally broken Emacs for me. And specifically wrt changing frame focus while using the minibuffer (which in my case is in a standalone frame). (I've mentioned this before. And yes, it's too bad that I have no specifics that might help track down the problem. I have to continue to use Emacs 26, to be able to use Emacs at all.) Something - dunno what, and dunno whether I'll ever have the time to somehow track it down - makes it impossible to use Emacs 27 with my setup, which has a dedicated frame for *Completions* whose focus is automatically redirected to the standalone minibuffer frame. Just sayin', to mention that at least one user has been bit badly by _something_ that changed from Emacs 26 to 27 - something in the area of frame focus and the minibuffer.