From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: ddavis@ddavis.io, larsi@gnus.org, 46610@debbugs.gnu.org,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#46610: Interactive mode tagging for python.el navigation functions
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:37:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4419101f-a65a-6906-2cdd-d550f5f40f0a@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835z2p5s9e.fsf@gnu.org>
On 18.02.2021 17:07, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>>> So I don't think you can use the new 'interactive' syntax there.
>>> So packages on ELPA are allowed to be ahead of those in core, but not
>>> vice versa? Is that really the intent that we allow them to diverge,
>>> but only in one direction?
>>
>> What do you mean by "ahead"? Have a newer version of the package in
>> 'master' and some other in ELPA?
>
> Not necessarily "newer", but one that relies on features that exist in
> the Emacs version with which it is bundled.
This can be done with either maintaining a separate version of python.el
somewhere in a different repo, or with version checks inside the main
file, compatibility aliases, etc.
Neither seems warranted for the feature in question, since we have a
backward-compatible syntax as well.
>> Then we (someone? who?) either have to maintain both version, or accept
>> that ELPA and all users of Emacs 24-27 won't get any subsequent updates
>> to python.el, including support for newer Python syntax, etc.
>
> I don't think I understand why. We are talking about changing
> python.el on master, which will be released with Emacs 28, in some
> not-too-close future. What does that have to do with users of older
> Emacsen receiving updates to python.el? I guess I'm confused here.
Emacs 27 users can install the most recent version of python.el from GNU
ELPA. This is generally a good thing.
>> Either approach can work in ELPA, but our "ELPA core" scheme aims to
>> make new features available to as many users as feasible, while limiting
>> the extra support effort required.
>
> The new features on master will be available only when Emacs 28 is
> released, until then they cannot possibly do any harm to anyone.
> Right?
I meant the "new features" of python.el (not of Emacs 28 core) and of
other "ELPA core" packages.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-18 15:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-18 4:46 bug#46610: Interactive mode tagging for python.el navigation functions Doug Davis
2021-02-18 11:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 11:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 11:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 14:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 15:37 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2021-02-18 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 17:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 20:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 15:50 ` Doug Davis
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