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X-Received-From: 195.238.20.97 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 18 May 2018 03:41:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116755 gmane.emacs.orgmode:120439 Archived-At: Be aware that free software is politcally loaded. It's just not a matter of= having the right or best tools, it' sometimes a question of ideal, that is= something that is *very* hard to negociate about... Moreover, if the people you work with use, say Word, it's pretty tough to b= ring in, say Latex. Because you'll disrupt the organisation of the team. In the case of emacs, though, things are easier : it's made to work with te= xt files and that is quite compatible with any other proprietary software. = You won't affect anybody's job with that. Here at my job, I don't control any of the software I use (I have to use Or= acle, Windows, Skype), but I can choose the software that *I* use for mysel= f. So it's a balance. Changing other's mind, or methods is super hard, what you experience is jus= t the normal. It'd be nice to know why your advisor rejects free software e= quivalents (lack of features ? fear of legal battles ? organisational ...) Stefan > Le 18 mai 2018 =C3=A0 02:28, edgar@openmail.cc a =C3=A9crit : >=20 >=20 > Hello, >=20 > _I_ need help. I am in graduate school, and I keep having issues with my= =20 > advisor for my strong inclination to use free software. I am obviously=20 > not in position to refuse, but she dislikes to have discussions about=20 > it. She pays a stipend to me every month, and my tuition is waved. >=20 > Is anyone here aware of a place where they do computational human=20 > biomechanics, mechanics, materials or finite elements where I could=20 > interact with free software? (having github, LaTeX, Python, etc.; avoid= =20 > Micro$oft products, Matlab, Mathematica, etc.). Is there no place where= =20 > one can simply use free software on a daily basis? >=20 > It seems from her comments that I am, otherwise, a good researcher. She= =20 > is a nice person, but I fear that this may become an issue in the future= =20 > for me (whether with her or other people). >=20 > As a student or junior faculty, how do you go about this? Do you just=20 > nod and wave your freedom good bye? >=20 > Thank you! 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