* bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + changed face height = mess
@ 2024-12-14 12:57 toomas
2024-12-14 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: toomas @ 2024-12-14 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 74866
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In "emacs -Q" under X (I have XFCE), evaluate:
(defun fit (lin col)
"Fit some text (LIN lines and COL columns) into a newly created frame."
(interactive)
(let ((buf (get-buffer-create "*foo*"))
(frm (make-frame '((z-group . above)))))
(with-current-buffer buf
(erase-buffer)
(setq mode-line-format '(""))
(dotimes (_ lin) (insert (format "%s\n" (make-string col ?x))))
(goto-char (point-min)))
(with-selected-frame frm
(switch-to-buffer buf)
(fit-frame-to-buffer))))
;;; LIN and COL are arbitrary, make them sufficiently small.
(fit 9 23)
So far, so good. Now evaluate the following:
(setq-default vertical-scroll-bar nil)
(set-face-attribute 'default nil :height 75)
(fit 9 23)
On my system, the frame's width is now one character short and the lines
do not fit in the new frame any more.
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* bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + changed face height = mess
2024-12-14 12:57 bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + changed face height = mess toomas
@ 2024-12-14 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 17:16 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-14 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: toomas, martin rudalics; +Cc: 74866
> From: toomas@rosin.ee
> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:57:31 +0200
>
>
> ----------------8<----------------8<----------------8<----------------
>
> In "emacs -Q" under X (I have XFCE), evaluate:
>
> (defun fit (lin col)
> "Fit some text (LIN lines and COL columns) into a newly created frame."
> (interactive)
> (let ((buf (get-buffer-create "*foo*"))
> (frm (make-frame '((z-group . above)))))
> (with-current-buffer buf
> (erase-buffer)
> (setq mode-line-format '(""))
> (dotimes (_ lin) (insert (format "%s\n" (make-string col ?x))))
> (goto-char (point-min)))
> (with-selected-frame frm
> (switch-to-buffer buf)
> (fit-frame-to-buffer))))
> ;;; LIN and COL are arbitrary, make them sufficiently small.
> (fit 9 23)
>
> So far, so good. Now evaluate the following:
>
> (setq-default vertical-scroll-bar nil)
> (set-face-attribute 'default nil :height 75)
> (fit 9 23)
>
> On my system, the frame's width is now one character short and the lines
> do not fit in the new frame any more.
>
> ---------------->8---------------->8---------------->8----------------
>
> In GNU Emacs 29.4 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41,
> cairo version 1.18.2) of 2024-12-10 built on localhost
> Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101014
> System Description: Gentoo Linux
FWIW, I cannot reproduce this, neither in Emacs 29.2 nor in the
current emacs-30 branch (which will soon become Emacs 30.1).
Martin, any comments?
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* bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + changed face height = mess
2024-12-14 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-12-14 17:16 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-14 19:09 ` bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + ch Toomas Rosin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-14 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, toomas; +Cc: 74866
> Martin, any comments?
Looks like an idiosyncrasy of 'set-face-attribute'. The following seems
to work here. Don't ask me why.
(defun fit (lin col)
"Fit some text (LIN lines and COL columns) into a newly created frame."
(interactive)
(let ((buf (get-buffer-create "*foo*"))
(frm (make-frame '((z-group . above) (vertical-scroll-bars . nil)))))
(with-current-buffer buf
(erase-buffer)
(setq mode-line-format '(""))
(dotimes (_ lin) (insert (format "%s\n" (make-string col ?x))))
(goto-char (point-min)))
(with-selected-frame frm
(switch-to-buffer buf)
(set-face-attribute 'default nil :height 57)
(fit-frame-to-buffer))))
martin
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* bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + ch
2024-12-14 17:16 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2024-12-14 19:09 ` Toomas Rosin
2024-12-17 13:07 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Toomas Rosin @ 2024-12-14 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: martin rudalics; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 74866
Thank you, this got the damn thing working for me. As the lines about
vertical scroll bars and font size were from my init.el, I was loath to
clutter my function with them and hoped to get away with only adding the
`vertical-scroll-bars' item to the `frame-attributes' arg of
`make-frame'. And indeed, this worked. So the final form of my MWM
looks like this:
;;; init.el:
(setq-default vertical-scroll-bar nil)
(set-face-attribute 'default nil :height 75)
;;; main code:
(defun fit (lin col)
"Fit some text (LIN lines and COL columns) into a newly created frame."
(interactive)
(let ((buf (get-buffer-create "*foo*"))
(frm (make-frame
`((z-group . above)
(vertical-scroll-bars . ,vertical-scroll-bar)))))
(with-current-buffer buf
(erase-buffer)
(setq mode-line-format '(""))
(dotimes (_ lin) (insert (format "%s\n" (make-string col ?x))))
(goto-char (point-min)))
(with-selected-frame frm
(switch-to-buffer buf)
(fit-frame-to-buffer))))
Cheers, T.
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* bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + ch
2024-12-14 19:09 ` bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + ch Toomas Rosin
@ 2024-12-17 13:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 13:15 ` Toomas Rosin
2024-12-18 10:05 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2024-12-17 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Toomas Rosin, martin rudalics; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 74866
Toomas Rosin <toomas@rosin.ee> writes:
> Thank you, this got the damn thing working for me. As the lines about
> vertical scroll bars and font size were from my init.el, I was loath to
> clutter my function with them and hoped to get away with only adding the
> `vertical-scroll-bars' item to the `frame-attributes' arg of
> `make-frame'. And indeed, this worked. So the final form of my MWM
> looks like this:
>
> ;;; init.el:
> (setq-default vertical-scroll-bar nil)
> (set-face-attribute 'default nil :height 75)
>
> ;;; main code:
> (defun fit (lin col)
> "Fit some text (LIN lines and COL columns) into a newly created frame."
> (interactive)
> (let ((buf (get-buffer-create "*foo*"))
> (frm (make-frame
> `((z-group . above)
> (vertical-scroll-bars . ,vertical-scroll-bar)))))
> (with-current-buffer buf
> (erase-buffer)
> (setq mode-line-format '(""))
> (dotimes (_ lin) (insert (format "%s\n" (make-string col ?x))))
> (goto-char (point-min)))
> (with-selected-frame frm
> (switch-to-buffer buf)
> (fit-frame-to-buffer))))
>
> Cheers, T.
So is there a bug here?
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* bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + ch
2024-12-17 13:07 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2024-12-17 13:15 ` Toomas Rosin
2024-12-18 10:05 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Toomas Rosin @ 2024-12-17 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: martin rudalics, Eli Zaretskii, 74866
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> wrote:
> So is there a bug here?
I would say there is, because Martin's fix is more of a workaround than
regular coding. At least there seems to be no way to arrive at this
hack by reading the documentation.
T.
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* bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + ch
2024-12-17 13:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 13:15 ` Toomas Rosin
@ 2024-12-18 10:05 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-23 17:59 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-18 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas, Toomas Rosin; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 74866
> Toomas Rosin <toomas@rosin.ee> writes:
Toomas please include me in the recipients.
>> Thank you, this got the damn thing working for me. As the lines about
>> vertical scroll bars and font size were from my init.el, I was loath to
>> clutter my function with them and hoped to get away with only adding the
>> `vertical-scroll-bars' item to the `frame-attributes' arg of
>> `make-frame'. And indeed, this worked. So the final form of my MWM
>> looks like this:
>>
>> ;;; init.el:
>> (setq-default vertical-scroll-bar nil)
>> (set-face-attribute 'default nil :height 75)
>>
>> ;;; main code:
>> (defun fit (lin col)
>> "Fit some text (LIN lines and COL columns) into a newly created frame."
>> (interactive)
>> (let ((buf (get-buffer-create "*foo*"))
>> (frm (make-frame
>> `((z-group . above)
>> (vertical-scroll-bars . ,vertical-scroll-bar)))))
>> (with-current-buffer buf
>> (erase-buffer)
>> (setq mode-line-format '(""))
>> (dotimes (_ lin) (insert (format "%s\n" (make-string col ?x))))
>> (goto-char (point-min)))
>> (with-selected-frame frm
>> (switch-to-buffer buf)
>> (fit-frame-to-buffer))))
>>
>> Cheers, T.
>
> So is there a bug here?
It might be a synchronization problem. When in the new frame I type M-x
fit-frame-to-buffer, it behaves as intended here.
Whatever it is, I'd suggest to never ever use the idiom
(setq-default vertical-scroll-bar nil)
'vertical-scroll-bar' is an automatically buffer-local variable meant to
override what the frame specifies for any buffer displayed in it. But
the size hints Emacs sends to the window manager are derived from the
settings for the frame. So it's easily possible that the window manager
truncates the frame size to the next size specified by our size
increments just that in the case at hand the base width would still
include the vertical scroll bar. In fact, here I have to set
'frame-resize-pixelwise' to t to make your scenario work even without
the 'set-face-attribute' call.
So if you want to turn off vertical scroll bars for all frames please
use a (vertical-scroll-bars . nil) entry in 'default-frame-alist'.
Whether 'set-face-attribute' DTRT and how it is involved in the scenario
at hand is a question I'd prefer not to answer. If it affects the
canonical line height or column width of a frame, it should find its way
into the size hints for each frame. Otherwise, chaos may result.
martin
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* bug#74866: 29.4; fit-frame-to-window + no vertical scroll bar + ch
2024-12-18 10:05 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2024-12-23 17:59 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-23 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas, Toomas Rosin; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 74866
> Whether 'set-face-attribute' DTRT and how it is involved in the scenario
> at hand is a question I'd prefer not to answer. If it affects the
> canonical line height or column width of a frame, it should find its way
> into the size hints for each frame. Otherwise, chaos may result.
I now analyzed the problem and came to the conclusion below. Note that
the scenario below is interesting only for window systems that employ
size hints as is the case for most GNU/Linux based systems. The problem
cannot be seen on Windows, for example, because it does not use size
hints.
With emacs -Q of the release version put the following code into
*scratch* (which is the code from the OP plus two commented lines).
(defun fit (lin col)
"Fit some text (LIN lines and COL columns) into a newly created frame."
(interactive)
(let ((buf (get-buffer-create "*bar*"))
(frm (make-frame '((z-group . above)))))
(with-current-buffer buf
(erase-buffer)
(setq mode-line-format '(""))
(dotimes (_ lin) (insert (format "%s\n" (make-string col ?x))))
(goto-char (point-min)))
(with-selected-frame frm
(switch-to-buffer buf)
(fit-frame-to-buffer))))
;;; LIN and COL are arbitrary, make them sufficiently small.
;; (setq frame-resize-pixelwise t)
(setq-default vertical-scroll-bar nil)
(set-face-attribute 'default nil :height 75)
(fit 9 23)
;; (eval-buffer)
Now first evaluate the
(set-face-attribute 'default nil :height 75)
line to shrink the selected frame. Note that if you call 'eval-buffer'
immediately, total chaos will ensue because the face attribute handling
code will annihilate any previous attempt to fit the frame.
Next evaluate the buffer. You should see a new frame with wrapped
lines. Now uncomment the
;; (setq frame-resize-pixelwise t)
line and eval the buffer again. You should see a new frame fitting the
buffer.
What goes wrong when you see wrapped lines?
'fit-frame-to-buffer-1' inherently (assuming a fixed width font and
other simplifications) calculates the frame width by multiplying the
frame's character width (6 pixels) with the number of characters on the
longest line (23) resulting in 138 pixels. It adds 16 pixels for the
fringes resulting in a requested width of 154 pixels. Emacs asks the
window manager via xg_frame_set_char_size to set the width to 154 pixels
but the window manager allots us only 152 pixels. Emacs concurs and
wraps the lines.
The reason for this is deeply rooted in the way we calculate size hints.
Emacs sets the base width of the frame to 32 pixels here (16 for the
widths of the frame's fringes, 16 for the scroll bar width). So we have
a "variable" frame width of 154 - 32 = 122 pixels. At the same time
Emacs sets the width increment to the frame's default character width.
Now the nearest multiple of 6 to 122 is 120 and that's the number of
pixels the window manager gives us.
I now installed a workaround in 'fit-frame-to-buffer-1' on master to
make the frame at least as large as needed to not wrap lines in such a
case (hopefully, it does not break anything on systems that do not use
size hints).
On the Emacs I daily use I do not see the problem because I calculate
size hints in a way that adds the "missing" 2 pixels to the base width -
resulting in a base width of 34 pixels and a "variable" width of 120
pixels. If and when I feel that it's save to install it, I will do that
on master. Till then either live with the workaround or either remove
the scroll bar from the frame (and not from the buffer) or set
'frame-resize-pixelwise' to t.
martin
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