From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Right Alt/Meta keys on Windows systems Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:54:17 +0100 Message-ID: <43B2FB79.6040809@student.lu.se> References: <200512281541.jBSFfXUQ013499@copa.pajato.com> <200512282155.22035.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <200512282231.19843.pogonyshev@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135803291 11493 80.91.229.2 (28 Dec 2005 20:54:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 28 21:54:48 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EriJm-0003Xy-0S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:54:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EriL5-0003jR-Po for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EriKu-0003ik-4Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:55:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EriKq-0003iB-WD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:55:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EriKq-0003i6-S1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:55:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.159] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EriKy-0000P8-NS; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:55:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.069.1) id 43ABF6D500144955; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:54:18 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Paul Pogonyshev In-Reply-To: <200512282231.19843.pogonyshev@gmx.net> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48455 Archived-At: Paul Pogonyshev wrote: >That's OK, but they don't work the same for Lennart, right? I'm arguing, >that since it is system setting, Emacs shouldn't override it. > > I apologies for any confusion I have added here when I tried to answer. My concern was with using the left Alt key for the menus in Emacs and instead use the left and right Windows keys for META in Emacs. I have no problem with the right Alt key (AltGr). My patches allows the usage I told above. This way Alt is used the way it usually is used on w32. Using the menus is otherwise a pain. But instead I sacrifice the use of the left and right Windows keys. For me this is far better since I use the menus much more often when the Windows keys. (In fact I never use the left and right windows keys - except in Emacs. I use Ctrl-Esc instead.)