From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Printing from WindowXP version of emacs Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:46:54 +0100 Message-ID: <43AB10BE.1040104@student.lu.se> References: <1134660719.186074.250590@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <43A8842E.5090204@student.lu.se> <43A908F9.1070304@student.lu.se> <43A9B6D5.9010205@student.lu.se> <43A9DBB8.3010204@student.lu.se> <43AA5D94.8000602@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135284441 10676 80.91.229.2 (22 Dec 2005 20:47:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 22 21:47:20 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EpXLK-0003rl-AT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:47:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EpXML-0004d0-Ag for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:48:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EpXM3-0004cY-2V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EpXM2-0004cJ-En for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EpXM2-0004cC-Ag for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EpXLA-0000mV-4c; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:47:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.069.1) id 43AA783200037A73; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:46:54 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:32171 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >ANSI text means, in Windows parlance, the 8-bit codepages used in >European locales. Also, in some other place in MSDN they say >explicitly that 8-bit characters are accepted, but I cannot find that >place anymore. > > Thanks. Sounds like a reasonable strategi for MS. > > >>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/graphics/hh/graphics/provider_b941f8a9-ddb3-47ca-afa2-d06c6de2ce74.xml.asp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Thanks. This is what I have been reading too. I am however not sure that >>this text means that "copy" for example are handled this way. The text >>describes two steps where the spooler is used. In the first step the >>spooler sends the job to GDI for conversion and get it back from GDI. In >>the second step the spooler sends the data to the printer. >> >>Could it not be that "copy" goes directly to the second step? >> >> > >No. The steps described in the above URL all happen _after_ the text >was sent to the spooler. What the text does not describe is how >writing to PRN or \\server\printer winds up in the spool area. > > I guess you are right, but I am not absolutely sure. Does not the spooler also handle RAW data? This kind of data would come in at the second step (or was there something more which I have forgotten at the moment?). >PostScript printing to a non-PostScript printer will only work thru >Ghostscript. > > Yes, it looks like that. >Anyway, I was talking about a different issue: how to find out why >COPY or the ways suggested for printing normal (non-color) text from >Emacs don't work in your case. That has nothing to do with PostScript >and colors. > > We are talking about two problems. I wanted it to be very clear that there are only two options that we are aware of now to get color printing: 1) Using the externa program Ghostscript 2) Using the elisp file htmlize-view.el (or something similar) I think this thread has made this very clear too. >Right, and that is the problem I thought we were trying to solve in >this thread. > > I would like to solve that too if we can. At the moment I am out of ideas. Not totally of course (see above), but I do not know what to test further. The printer we are currently talking about works perfectly well otherwise. I print to it several times every day. > > >>>The printer enters the PostScript state automatically when it sees the >>>PostScript preamble. >>> >>> >>> >>I am sorry but I have seen printers where this does not happen. >> >> > >They are either broken or incorrectly set up. > I am not sure of that. This happened in a mixed computer environment.