From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Theodor Thornhill Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding major or popular language modes to Emacs distribution Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 18:28:31 +0200 Message-ID: <4393A749-A044-41AB-AB19-2EE2FB592F10@thornhill.no> References: <875yvqa3qv.fsf@ypei.me> <87czpy1nyu.fsf@posteo.net> <83sfyuozmh.fsf@gnu.org> <87o89hznqy.fsf@posteo.net> <831r6doepi.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsutzlon.fsf@posteo.net> <83wno5my3p.fsf@gnu.org> <877dg5zitl.fsf@posteo.net> <875yvpin00.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16739"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , hi@ypei.me To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 18:29:28 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mK1Cx-00047e-LB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 18:29:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59234 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mK1Cw-0007s3-IC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:29:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47398) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mK1CD-0007Az-HZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:28:41 -0400 Original-Received: from out1.migadu.com ([91.121.223.63]:44536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mK1CA-0003fw-AD; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:28:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thornhill.no; s=key1; t=1630168114; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=0dBlZmVboYJGWdKUB9heSNmqdzhdq85nUtN+JnLQdbw=; b=hKjo/L4JUl68fxD8T0dGpU4jSp46MN8NQLfo7gsnFofA+BrCy2TEvjwONJEdFGN/H0NaKo UGc+tTR1R3fy8+YftOcUO/T8P9Y0ggSLI/Z7lssFamZgT0niKMbO9YjIkmdYLTpJch3eDn m9R6nbpBCa48wnoPh5WPmkwkcGH+tUeqWafMoIGxvE4pbs4pHg76XTFSyyLL9YfeTUKL1I et4qZODtW6rcS3AtJp8NWNH0A+Au3VJHJty+gIhCHUvRy+g0XE/8ZedhVSCkXnS8zxpxkc VJP7wkwYaskkfBxzPNqMN3qT6X7TsktT35VreHYjwM1D3PBwfFKFbW/ghxNsJg== X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. In-Reply-To: <875yvpin00.fsf@gnus.org> X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: theo@thornhill.no Received-SPF: pass client-ip=91.121.223.63; envelope-from=theo@thornhill.no; helo=out1.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273338 Archived-At: On 28 August 2021 17:53:51 CEST, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrot= e: >Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> Out of curiosity, I checked [0] to see what the languages are said to b= e >> popular: > >Thanks -- interesting list=2E > >> | Language | Status | >> |----------------------+---------------------------------------| >> | C | Built-In | >> | Python | Built-In | >> | Java | Built-In | >> | C++ | Built-In | >> | C# | ELPA | > >To clarify -- when I said that C# didn't need to be in Emacs Core, it's >not because it's not a major language (it is), but it's my opinion that >it's unlikely that a large number of people would want to use Emacs when >programming in C#=2E (Because the IDEs that come bundled with the popula= r >C# compilers are what people are using, and it seems unlikely that many >people would want to switch away from those=2E) > What? There's at least two of us! Joking aside, I didn't mean to start a "why isn't my mode in core" thread= =2E The rules just seemed a little arbitrary=2E Also now with LSP a thing t= his is more viable than ever=2E The only benefit would be one off edits wou= ldn't need a package download=2E Not a major issue though