From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:19:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4377D807.5070402@student.lu.se> References: <4373BDF2.90106@student.lu.se> <5B24B171-FABB-40C4-90C8-248240E4EF8B@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131927733 30746 80.91.229.2 (14 Nov 2005 00:22:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 14 01:22:12 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbS6U-0006k5-5G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:21:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbS6R-0000cx-34 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:21:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EbS4E-0000YP-39 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:19:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EbS4A-0000Y9-LN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:19:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbS49-0000Y5-IX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:19:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.159] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EbS48-00010Z-QF; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:19:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 436FB1AD001B9ED8; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:19:19 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: miles@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45924 Archived-At: Miles Bader wrote: >2005/11/14, David Reitter : > > >>It's the concept that counts, and none of the merit is taken away >>from Emacs if the term denotating the concept changes. >> >> > >No of course not. But the name shortcuts is misleading, a bit ugly, >and annoying for Emacs veterans (because it drops a familar term for >something that's not particularly nice); morever it hasn't been shown >to be so newbie unfriendly as to warrant _that_ much concern > > It is the sum of all newbie unfriendliness that counts. At least for the newbie.