From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menu help text not shown when using keyboard Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:17:00 +0200 Message-ID: <435BC58C.5090803@student.lu.se> References: <435B8BBA.7050707@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1130087902 25946 80.91.229.2 (23 Oct 2005 17:18:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 23 19:18:16 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ETjTA-0007wh-Ok for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:17:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ETjT9-00060m-Uk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ETjT1-00060h-Mk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:17:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ETjT1-00060V-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:17:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ETjT1-00060S-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:17:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.164] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ETjT0-0006aZ-9g; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:17:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.218.244) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 434E604000239E45; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:17:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:44631 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:10:18 +0200 >>From: Lennart Borgman >> >>If you are using the keyboard to navigate the menus then you currently >>get no information about the help text that are associated with the menu >>entries. >> >> > >Please provide a complete and self-contained recipe to reproduce this, >and please tell on what OS you see this. ``Using keyboard to navigate >the menus'' is not enough info, at least for me, to reproduce the >problem. > > Sorry, I will try to remember. I am testing on w32: In GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.0.2195) of 2005-10-22 on W2ONE Start with emacs -Q and open the menus from the keyboard with F10. Navigate to different menu items. Nothing is shown in the echo area. Put the mouse over a menu item with a help text. This now pops up in a tooltip. Now do M-x tooltip-mode RET to turn off tooltip-mode. Try the same things as above. The only difference will be that the tooltips instead of poping up are shown in the echo area. Summary: You do not see the menu help texts if you are navigating the menus with the keyboard. This is not good from a portability point of view.