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From: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	michael_heerdegen@web.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	62009@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#62009: 29.0.60; Emacs crashes on setf symbol-name
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 12:09:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43460d2c-ba80-0f2f-656c-ef0aca5667b5@daniel-mendler.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16ecbe9ea85b22d008fd@heytings.org>

On 3/10/23 11:59, Gregory Heytings wrote:
> Is "symbol-name" a function that is used in performance-critical code? 
> And did you actually measure that performance overhead before concluding 
> that it it "unacceptably large"?  According to my measurements, creating a 
> string from a symbol name costs about 100 CPU cycles.

Yes, of course, for example completion. It would add cost all over the
place in many packages. Also note the added GC pressure. It is not a
good idea to change symbol-name now to allocate strings.

>> Raising an exception upon modification would be the best approach.
>>
> 
> That would also come with a performance overhead, as there is currently no 
> way to distinguist strings that are used for symbol names from other 
> strings.  Not to mention the added complexity in the code.

One could check if the string is located in read-only memory. Or one
could add a flag bit to the string data structure (and possibly to other
data structures too). Freezing data structures such that they become
read-only is a generally useful feature. There won't be any performance
overhead of the check since a branch not taken is fast thanks to the
branch predictor.

Daniel





  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06 19:26 bug#62009: 29.0.60; Emacs crashes on setf symbol-name Daniel Mendler
2023-03-07  4:40 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-07 15:45 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-07 17:08   ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-07 17:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-09 21:11       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-10  7:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10  8:45           ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10  8:47             ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10 11:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:00                 ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:45                     ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 13:08                         ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 15:02                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 15:16                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-11 15:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-18 22:46                         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-19  6:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-19 21:20                             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 11:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10  9:40           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 10:31             ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 10:59               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 11:09                 ` Daniel Mendler [this message]
2023-03-10 11:23                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10 12:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:30                   ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-10 11:36                     ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:24                         ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 22:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-10 11:57                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 12:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 13:19                       ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-11  7:07                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13  8:07                       ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-13  8:28                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13 11:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 11:50                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13 11:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:59               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-11  7:07               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-11  7:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 18:56           ` Philip Kaludercic

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