C-h C-t should show the TODO

C-h C-t should show the TODO

[D. Goel]

Dear folks at g.e.bug

(I was impressed by the debian's organization of 'project-help wanted'
page..  http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ -- and the fact that it is
easily accessible from www.debian.org).  I am slowly working on
creating a similar page for Emacs--should this essentially link to the
Emacs TODO ?  And will try to put it up at a conspicuous website like
http://www.emacs.org.)

In the meanwhile, i had to do a lot of juggling to locate the TODO
file for emacs on my unix-box.  

[1] I was thinking that just as C-h C-n displays news, C-h C-t ought to
display this TODO page..   easy accessibility means: more people read
this.. means: more people contribute. 

[2] I was wondering if it would make sense to include something like
this at the beginning of TODO file--->

"Your interest in helping accomplish any of the following is very
welcome, please inform emacs-devel@gnu.org of what you are working
on.  That will help us make the best use of your efforts efforts and
avoid duplication of work--->"


[3] once again, i was really impressed by the way debian classifies
packages as
'up-for-adoption'/obsolete/orphaned/being-worked-upon-and-need-help
etc.

on this page:
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/

and was wondering if TODO can include more such info or weblink or an
info-link to some file called PACKAGES or some such. 


Dave

Re: C-h C-t should show the TODO

[Eli Zaretskii]

[Further discussions redirected to emacs-devel.]
> From: "D. Goel" <deego@glue.umd.edu>
> Date: 01 May 2002 02:56:24 -0400
> 
> (I was impressed by the debian's organization of 'project-help wanted'
> page..  http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ -- and the fact that it is
> easily accessible from www.debian.org).

Ironically, www.debian.org is unreachable from my system...

> I am slowly working on
> creating a similar page for Emacs--should this essentially link to the
> Emacs TODO ?  And will try to put it up at a conspicuous website like
> http://www.emacs.org.)

Why not make it a page on www.gnu.org?

Re: C-h C-t should show the TODO

[D. Goel]

hi Eli

> [Further discussions redirected to emacs-devel.]

so what do you think of the C-h C-t --> TODO suggestion? 


> Ironically, www.debian.org is unreachable from my system...

must be down:( .. this morning, i can't seem to reach it either for
some reason..

> 
> > I am slowly working on
> > creating a similar page for Emacs--should this essentially link to the
> > Emacs TODO ?  And will try to put it up at a conspicuous website like
> > http://www.emacs.org.)
> 
> Why not make it a page on www.gnu.org?

absolutely.  definitely.  i will do that.  I shall come up with that
page, and show it to you folks and transfer it to www.gnu.org and
sugest that it be linked from
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html#YouHelp 

<-- and i shall try to get macs.org and other sites to link to this
emacs page...

====================================================
While i am at it, consider this page:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

this leads to a 'page not found' ---- i suggest there be an index.html
here linked to http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html .
====================================================

Moreover, in the page:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html
consider item 9 in the contents---
If you want to help with GNU Emacs 

i feel like 'capitalizing' it... and making it more inviting, like:
HELP WITH EMACS WELCOME...
====================================================


consider now the one-liner contents of item 9--> 

To contact the maintainers of Emacs, either to report a bug or to
contribute fixes or improvements, send mail to
<bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>. 


adding this line to the contents would be nice-->

To see the TODO in emacs, type C-h C-t (new versions of emacs).  OR
you can browse the TODO <link> here.

<-- we could simply put the TODO online at:
www.gnu.org/emacs/TODO and be linked, as suggested above, from item 9..

i shall try to reexamine the TODO and see if it can be organized
better in debian-packaging style.   Until then, do the above
suggestions look reasonable?   

====================================================





D				   <http://www.glue.umd.edu/~deego>
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Re: C-h C-t should show the TODO

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: "D. Goel" <deego@glue.umd.edu>
> Date: 01 May 2002 12:57:38 -0400
> 
> so what do you think of the C-h C-t --> TODO suggestion? 

I don't have an opinion, so I'll defer to others.  (In general, TODO
is something for the developers, so I'm not sure C-h C-t is
necessary.)

> i shall try to reexamine the TODO and see if it can be organized
> better in debian-packaging style.   Until then, do the above
> suggestions look reasonable?   

I don't consider myself an expert in Web page design, but if you could
send patches to the HTML you find on www.gnu.org, I will gladly apply
those patches, provided that no one objects.

Thanks.

Re: C-h C-t should show the TODO

[D. Goel]

Eli

> I don't consider myself an expert in Web page design, but if you could
> send patches to the HTML you find on www.gnu.org, I will gladly apply
> those patches, provided that no one objects.
> 


cool.. i shall work on those patches and mail them to
emacs-devel@gnu.org. 



Have a good day,

D				   <http://www.glue.umd.edu/~deego>
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Re: C-h C-t should show the TODO

[Kim F. Storm]

"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:

> > From: "D. Goel" <deego@glue.umd.edu>
> > Date: 01 May 2002 12:57:38 -0400
> > 
> > so what do you think of the C-h C-t --> TODO suggestion? 
> 
> I don't have an opinion, so I'll defer to others.  (In general, TODO
> is something for the developers, so I'm not sure C-h C-t is
> necessary.)

Neither do I.

IMO, there are already too many bindings in the C-h map...

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

Re: C-h C-t should show the TODO

[Richard Stallman]

It seems to me that etc/TODO is a more convenient place for
the Emacs TODO list than a web page.  So I decided to keep the
existing file, and implement C-h C-t.

Re: C-h C-t should show the TODO

[Richard Stallman]

Thanks for these suggestions.  The concept of "abandoned" does not
really apply to packages within Emacs, but the other ideas seem
useful.