From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
Cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Avoiding moving point into minibuffer prompt area
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:46:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4301D22A.9050408@student.lu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877jem15q8.fsf@jurta.org>
Juri Linkov wrote:
>>>It is useful to move point into the minibuffer prompt without
>>>changing default settings. But since this can be confusing for
>>>beginners, maybe it should be more difficult to move point into the
>>>prompt area by default? For example, to disable moving point into
>>>the prompt with C-b, but allow C-a at the beginning of the input
>>>area to move point to the beginning of the prompt. This is like C-a
>>>(`message-beginning-of-line') works on message header fields.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Could be an idea, sounds consistent and not to surprising perhaps. But
>>it seems easier to change the default for "Inviolable".
>>
>>
>
>Instead of changing the default, please try to find a solution that
>will please as much the beginners as the seasoned Emacs users.
>
>
Well, I am trying, it is not very easy all the time ;-)
Combining what we have said so far I think this could be reasonable and
useful:
1) Change the default (sorry ;-)
2) Let C-a move first to the beginning of the input area
3) Let more C-a move between beginning of the prompt and input area
(toggle so to say)
For this to actually work I guess 3 also would toggle Inviolable temporary.
Does this way seems reasonable to you?
>
>
>>BTW the message "Text is readonly" is also confusing when "Inviolable"
>>is set. You expect the prompt to be readonly and the message is
>>disturbing when you delete character by character and then suddenly this
>>text appears over the prompt. The first time you see this you may think
>>that something is very wrong, at least that is what I did.
>>
>>
>
>What do you expect in this situation? Trying to delete a character at
>bob prints the message "Beginning of buffer". Perhaps it should print
>something like "Beginning of prompt input area" in the minibuffer.
>
>
I would expect no message at all in this situation. In my opinion that
would be better. Alternatively perhaps "You are at the beginning of the
input area - to move into the prompt area use C-a".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-16 11:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-16 1:29 Avoiding moving point into minibuffer prompt area Lennart Borgman
2005-08-16 1:53 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 4:07 ` Drew Adams
2005-08-16 5:10 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 14:23 ` Drew Adams
2005-08-16 14:49 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 5:15 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 4:13 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 4:51 ` Drew Adams
2005-08-16 16:34 ` David Reitter
2005-08-16 17:57 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 18:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-16 19:12 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 21:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-16 22:09 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 22:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-17 3:05 ` Drew Adams
2005-08-17 3:53 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-17 3:59 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-17 15:52 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-18 5:44 ` Drew Adams
2005-08-16 21:34 ` David Reitter
2005-08-16 19:52 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2005-08-17 3:07 ` Drew Adams
2005-08-17 3:13 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2005-08-17 3:17 ` Drew Adams
2005-08-16 20:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-16 9:04 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-16 9:59 ` Juri Linkov
2005-08-16 10:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-16 11:27 ` Juri Linkov
2005-08-16 11:46 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2005-08-16 20:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-16 22:15 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-17 15:51 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-17 16:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-18 21:15 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-18 22:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-19 23:07 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-19 23:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-22 5:01 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-22 5:02 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-16 20:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-16 13:57 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-16 14:15 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-08-16 18:29 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-17 9:01 ` Emilio Lopes
2005-08-17 11:14 ` Lennart Borgman
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