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From: "Tyler Dodge" <tyler@tdodge.consulting>
To: "Po Lu" <luangruo@yahoo.com>, "Stefan Kangas" <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: "Emacs developers" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: "Significant Garbage Collection Improvement For Emacs" - sweep_conses performance improved by 50%?
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 23:07:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42ba5e8a-8a26-4afd-ab59-efbb967e8a24@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qqr425n.fsf@yahoo.com>

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Hi,

I would not be surprised if you are correct in that cache locality has a greater
impact than the branch mispredictions. I'm also not certain that this 
would have any effect on other builds than the Mac OS version, so I 
would be curious to hear if it does have the same benefit. In my personal setup
with the change, the memory usage has not caused any issues, but I have not 
measured it that closely. I think this change would make sense as a configure
flag.

Since writing that blogpost, I did attempt a few variations of adding prefetch 
instructions in sweep_conses, but all of the variants I tried ended up having 
significantly worse performance characteristics than omitting them. That makes
it a bit harder for me to believe that it's attributable to cache locality, but like
you said, there are a number of other reasons that could be the actual cause.

Tyler Dodge

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Po Lu wrote:
> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > In this blog post
> >
> > https://tdodge.consulting/blog/living-the-emacs-garbage-collection-dream
> >
> > the author asserts that a one-line patch "reduces the total wall clock
> > duration for sweep conses execution by approximately 50%", at least in
> > one benchmark.  There are some caveats; read the blog post for the
> > full story.
> 
> My guess is that the blog post overestimates the performance cost of
> branch predictor misses, and underestimates the real effect of the
> change, which is making sweep_conses walk an array more and a linked
> list less.  Which is also more cache friendly, but sweeping any kind of
> array is intrinsically faster than doing the same to a linked list for
> any number of other reasons.
> 
> I don't know what the memory consumption impact of such a change would
> be since I haven't tried it myself.
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-29  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-29  5:07 "Significant Garbage Collection Improvement For Emacs" - sweep_conses performance improved by 50%? Stefan Kangas
2022-10-29  5:19 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-29  5:41 ` Po Lu
2022-10-29  6:07   ` Tyler Dodge [this message]
2022-10-29 14:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30  0:53       ` Po Lu
2023-02-11 20:10     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-12 21:58       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-02-13 20:07         ` Konstantin Kharlamov

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