From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: w32-pass-lwindow-to-system does not work as expected Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:06:08 +0200 Message-ID: <42CAE830.5050505@student.lu.se> References: <42CADC1A.4060106@student.lu.se> <42CAE2AC.9060502@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120594772 31180 80.91.229.2 (5 Jul 2005 20:19:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 22:19:31 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DptsX-0002lB-9h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:18:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DptsK-0008J8-9v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:18:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dptrq-0008Aj-VI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:18:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dptri-000855-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:17:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dptrh-0007zV-L1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.83] (helo=pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DptmR-0002eF-TE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.205.6) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 42BFBBD2001A1695; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:06:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40457 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40457 Juanma Barranquero wrote: >Well, certainly your claim that `w32-pass-lwindow-to-system' does not >work as documented is just wrong. It does. The fact that Windows >reclaims some of these bindings is another matter altogether, and yes, >perhaps it could be circumvented (not "fixed", unless you're talking >of fixing Windows) via a keyboard hook. I would recommend against it, >at this moment. This would be new, low level code, to fix a misfeature >of Windows, and there seem to be no much user request for it. > > I think it is wrong. The documentation says: w32-pass-lwindow-to-system's value is nil Non-nil if the left "Windows" key is passed on to Windows. When non-nil, the Start menu is opened by tapping the key. The first sentence is wrong. The second is correct. Perhaps there is not much need because users on ms windows may find that this does not work as expected (after much work) and then decide that it does not seem as Emacs work as documented. Then they leave to other options. (A story many times told - I believe I have seen such cases.) I tried to use for Meta because that would be nice. Then I could access the menu as in other w32 programs (and that is certainly a something a novice user expects). So there could be request for it, I believe.