From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:57:45 +0200 Message-ID: <42C85F59.8050501@student.lu.se> References: <42C8366C.4090901@student.lu.se> <87r7ef4qf3.fsf@rocksteady.printf.se> <42C84855.6040906@student.lu.se> <87mzp34n8k.fsf@rocksteady.printf.se> <42C8579A.2020609@student.lu.se> <200507032146.j63LkZq11919@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120430079 18189 80.91.229.2 (3 Jul 2005 22:34:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 00:34:38 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpD2X-0003yg-LE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:34:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpD3i-0000gg-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpD34-0000Xr-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:34:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpD32-0000XH-Pb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:34:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpCyC-0007jp-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:29:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.228.8.164] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DpCYz-0006FM-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:03:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.123.121] (83.249.205.6) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) id 42B94E290020A28D; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:57:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200507032146.j63LkZq11919@raven.dms.auburn.edu> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40278 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40278 Luc Teirlinck wrote: >Lennart Borgman wrote: > > 3) Alt-Tab is useless as a default since it is not available in window > type environments. > >Did you really mean "in window type environments" (when using a window >system) or did you mean "in an MS Windows type environment". (I am >not trying to nitpick on terminology, I am really not sure which of >the two you mean.) If the former, then it is difficult to avoid >conflicts with window manager bindings, due to the large variety of >window managers out there. A good window manager will allow you to >rebind its keys. All of my window manager commands use the super key, >so I have no conflicts. > > I mean on a system where a window manager is used. Several times it has been pointed out that many of the most common window managers uses Alt-Tab for window managers window switching. And yes, I use MS Windows. Still a majority does that. We can not pretend that the key bindings there are unimportant. They are important whehter we like it or not. I think that we will get a much larger user base if we acknowledge that. I think that this is important in the long run. I have struggled to get a working environment on MS Windows to see if I can switch without much trouble. As long as I have trouble getting things working on w32 I can not switch.