From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mouse-1-click-follows-link Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:32:09 +0100 Message-ID: <42AEC039.10207@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118748725 4822 80.91.229.2 (14 Jun 2005 11:32:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 14 13:32:02 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Di9ds-0005nU-Jo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:31:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Di9gE-0005XV-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Di9fZ-0005Ij-PY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:33:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Di9fQ-0005CA-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:33:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Di9fQ-0005BU-LA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:33:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.207.198.106] (helo=exchange.integrasp.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Di9f3-0006sH-5K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:32:53 -0400 Original-Received: from ASSP-nospam (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by exchange.integrasp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MGCRLVYN; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:29:36 +0100 Original-Received: from 10.10.5.77 ([10.10.5.77] helo=[10.10.5.77]) by ASSP-nospam ; 14 Jun 05 11:29:36 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: "Kim F. Storm" In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38798 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38798 Kim F. Storm wrote: >Jason Rumney writes: > > > >>>>5) The delay for mouse-1 to set point >>>> >>>> >>>The delay for mouse-1 to set point is completely unintuitive, and no >>>other application I have ever seen works that way. >>> >>> > >Do you complain that the feature is there at all? > > No, I complain that it is overused. In custom, the buttons are given a face to make them look like buttons, so it is expected behaviour. Info and Help buffers are read-only, and similar to web pages in their nature, so it is good there. Gnus, compile and grep buffers are lists. They are not really like hypertext in that there is no or little text to click on that is not mouse sensitive. This makes it inconvenient to click to set the mouse position. This actually annoys me more in Gnus Summary buffers, where I want to delete spam from my mailbox without reading it. It used to annoy me a little in grep and compilation buffers, but I seem to have managed to turn it off there (or it has been disabled). > > >>Having just tried it, it is worse than unintuitive, it is impossible >>to do with a touchpad. >> >> > >Or do you complain that you cannot use it with a touchpad? > >Most touchpads have real buttons that you can use for this purpose >if you have to. > > I prefer to have the buttons mapped to mouse-2 and mouse-3, since there is no reason to have a duplicate mouse-1 when tapping the pad does the trick.