From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: completion.el users? Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 15:20:02 -0700 Message-ID: <42816EE7BBEB446996A1D36214A8E3F7@us.oracle.com> References: <87vc6p8sdi@ch.ristopher.com> <87li7lo4p8.fsf@yandex.ru> <0BA3DA32EEC343739CFE4229CA94FD5B@us.oracle.com> <87txm9uxmp@ch.ristopher.com> <943243026FFC4D699528918175E0ABDC@us.oracle.com> <87d2sxuq6v@ch.ristopher.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368310822 21993 80.91.229.3 (11 May 2013 22:20:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 22:20:22 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Christopher Schmidt'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 12 00:20:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UbI9K-0004CD-BD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 00:20:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54286 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbI9H-0004Xq-Qu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 18:20:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47314) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbI9E-0004Xk-NZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 18:20:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbI9D-00045K-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 18:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:45629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbI9D-00045B-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 18:20:11 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r4BMK8lp010697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 11 May 2013 22:20:09 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4BMK8Ht003614 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 11 May 2013 22:20:09 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4BMK7aS008313; Sat, 11 May 2013 22:20:07 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 11 May 2013 15:20:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87d2sxuq6v@ch.ristopher.com> thread-index: Ac5Ok6vPFFVzvaWtS4mPkNfc/2oaHwAAGMEw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159524 Archived-At: Christopher, you repeat your points: 1. completion.el is not used as much as auto-complete-mode. 2. auto-complete-mode is superior to completion.el. I repeat mine: 1. auto-complete-mode is not part of Emacs. I am not against adding it. Hurrahing a-c-m does not require denigrating completion.el. 2. a-c-m does not yet do what completion.el does, AFAICT. So far, they appear to be complementary. 3. completion.el currently serves a purpose, even if the number of users is not great. 4. completion.el does not require a lot of maintenance to keep it in its present state. No one is asking for added doc, or even a code cleanup (both of which might be welcome). Just leave it alone and let people use it until Emacs can offer something better. 5. If a-c-m is enhanced to do what completion.el does (good), and if a-c-m is added to Emacs (good), then completion.el would effectively be obsolete and could be deprecated. Until then it is not obsolete, regardless of how many users it has relative to a-c-m.