From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nfreimann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:30:30 +0100 Message-ID: <423D5ED6.5000202@yahoo.de> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <874qf7zlk5.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <87mzszxlc1.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <01c52d06$Blat.v2.4$afb8ba60@zahav.net.il> <16957.15707.79279.253809@mail.eng.it> Reply-To: niels_freimann@yahoo.de NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111318303 18494 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 11:31:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 12:31:42 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCyea-0003zq-22 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:31:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCyvS-0001Ei-MX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:48:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCytT-0000ma-LM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCytP-0000ks-4K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:46:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCytO-0000k6-K7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:46:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.12.11.34] (helo=smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DCydc-00053e-CV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:30:37 -0500 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.mail.yahoo.de) (niels?freimann@84.169.173.134 with login) by smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2005 11:30:31 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <16957.15707.79279.253809@mail.eng.it> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25019 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25019 Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >Those are things a newbie can't imagine, being trapped in the CUA >interface and its limited power... > > there is no future for anything else than full CUA compability and GUI dialogs for everything. The older people, still familar with the old X11 emacs, are dying out. I'm almost 60 years old, a emacs user since '87. emacs must become a much improved gedit. It must become the free alternative to Slickedit, a famous $299.00 editor once developed out of emacs sources.