From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nfreimann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:34:07 +0100 Message-ID: <423C385F.6080704@yahoo.de> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <01c52c71$Blat.v2.4$400dcce0@zahav.net.il> Reply-To: niels_freimann@yahoo.de NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111243675 30867 80.91.229.2 (19 Mar 2005 14:47:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 19 15:47:55 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCfF0-0003z8-7x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:47:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCfVi-0001Mz-0E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:05:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCfUP-0000wB-7Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:03:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCfUJ-0000tz-NE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCfUI-0000jV-Ao for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.12.11.33] (helo=smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DCf1k-0003eK-8A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:34:08 -0500 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.mail.yahoo.de) (niels?freimann@84.169.170.90 with login) by smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 14:34:06 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <01c52c71$Blat.v2.4$400dcce0@zahav.net.il> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24946 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24946 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >If someone is happy with Notepad, they probably don't need Emacs. And > > Eli, what he wants to tell us is, that CUA bindings and GUI dialogs are common today, and not proprietary key bindings and dialogs a la mini buffer or something. cvs gtk2 emacs has already brougth emacs very close to a up-to-date application. There is still a lot work to do, nevertheles a big thank you to all the great developers! -NF