From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39185: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:24:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <422e79bb-fef0-40af-a61d-f4e3d1093eb9@default> References: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@marxist.se> <7c4de596-6e2e-48e9-a187-e16a36c59176@default> <87k15ouq36.fsf@marxist.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="113431"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 39185@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 19 20:25:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1itGC7-000TS3-66 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:24:34 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xmc63akhj-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:24:34 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 00JJOX1k028202; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:24:33 GMT In-Reply-To: <87k15ouq36.fsf@marxist.se> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4954.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9505 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001190168 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9505 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001190168 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:174886 Archived-At: > >> Does anyone object to installing the below patch on master? > > > > I do. What if a user wants to include that info in a > > particular bug report, e.g., where it's relevant? > > Why not make it easy for a user to include it, even > > if by default it's excluded? >=20 > I don't think that feature request should stop us from moving ahead > with this potentially serious privacy issue. It's not about that. It's not about preventing you from avoiding such privacy problems. It's all about getting those fixed now. And doing it right, in a flexible way that covers everything that could - by users' own determinations - be a privacy issue. > If someone later wants to re-add an option to include messages, and > configure the bug reports along the lines you suggest, they are free > to work on that. That's the wrong way to deal with this issue, IMO. It's just punting - kicking the can down the road. And it's not as if a general solution is somehow difficult to conceive or hard to implement. Not at all. I really don't understand the myopia that narrows the focus to trying to decide what is _the_ potentially private info, and then wants to hard-code its exclusion.