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[217.227.97.51]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j19-20020a170906535300b0073da32b7db0sm635316ejo.199.2022.08.23.07.07.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Aug 2022 07:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <87a67vuwmo.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::634; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x634.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293888 Archived-At: On 22-08-23 11:39 , Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > I don't thing reading/writing C++ would be a problem for most Emacs > contributors. My main reservation is how slow compiling C++ code seems > to be -- whenever I'm building something written in C++ (especially if > it uses Qt, apparently) I schedule a couple of laps around the block to > have something to do while waiting. Yeah, that can happen for large stuff with Rust, erm, I meant C++ :-). OTOH, my impression so far with building contemporary Emacs is that the non-src part takes most of the time. YYMV, I guess.