From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43866: 26.3; italian postfix additions Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 13:26:12 +0200 Message-ID: <41EFCD0E-CE64-4203-8687-85684F96C355@acm.org> References: <88F65AD7-259D-4C39-A216-78E0DE7B9F13@acm.org> <5F77A995-2CB4-4090-94CF-1DE60FEAF4FB@acm.org> <87ft6o57tq.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7859"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 43866@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Pluim To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 09 13:27:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQqYI-0001xB-28 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 13:27:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52738 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQqYH-0004V1-2M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:27:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56812) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQqYA-0004U8-Av for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51004) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQqYA-0001eB-1F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQqY9-0007aN-U9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:27:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 11:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43866 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43866-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43866.160224278729116 (code B ref 43866); Fri, 09 Oct 2020 11:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43866) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2020 11:26:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34317 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQqXb-0007ZY-0h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:26:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail1434c50.megamailservers.eu ([91.136.14.34]:60302 helo=mail263c50.megamailservers.eu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQqXW-0007ZH-Ub for 43866@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:26:25 -0400 X-Authenticated-User: mattiase@bredband.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.eu; s=maildub; t=1602242775; bh=5U7BE2/JFnD+Jqq+sPHyLW+x8oK0T5f9bR0AUEhDAIA=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=F+MxgW9wu6TlI7zGf8+gZf+OivqJhMpu9x9tLB9aNMCT7yEsovXtduansTX/DnrEa OJNdNcMuZlHBUSDp67xa7LiaCvA6TCmGmpv7KX4/o6kYK/ivwl5tMpc1ZXQ9SKhkzq DbR5CvYfUMqgsrdjnLiyiOsxQHIDfdZXu2LaHAXQ= Feedback-ID: mattiase@acm.or Original-Received: from stanniol.lan (c-304ee655.032-75-73746f71.bbcust.telenor.se [85.230.78.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail263c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 099BQDev021117; Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:26:14 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87ft6o57tq.fsf@gnus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A782F15.5F8048D7.009D, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.3 cv=e6d4tph/ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=63Z2wlQ1NB3xHpgKFKE71g==:117 a=63Z2wlQ1NB3xHpgKFKE71g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=M51BFTxLslgA:10 a=OocQHUDgAAAA:8 a=tVetheBsJyfeQnYXG2AA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=xUZTl98r3Qw_uB5NK3jt:22 X-Origin-Country: SE X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:190150 Archived-At: 9 okt. 2020 kl. 06.42 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen : > I'm not sure I agree. An input method specialised to a specific > language doesn't have to be a superset of the larger group -- a > less-specific input method may be intended for users that have less > experience with the language, and therefore be "sloppier"; i.e., have > more input methods so that the user will find the character easier = (but > have more false positives that then will have to be fixed manually). The choice of input method is not about proficiency in the language but = rather that a more constrained method is more efficient for monolingual = use. The many input sequences of 'latin-postfix' are not there to help = the learner stumble upon the right one by luck, but to allow the entry = of more characters. However, Francesco is right in that latin-postfix is too heavily loaded = for smooth use, and I certainly understand why he prefers = italian-postfix. 'latin-alt-postfix' is somewhat more practical (and = uses e=3D). > So I think Francesco is right here -- just add E=3D, and do nothing = else > here (for the Euro). I wouldn't mind, although we may be straying a bit into tailoring parts = of Emacs to a single user.