where are my brackets?

where are my brackets?

[Bao Marianna Nguyen]

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I have a macbook pro and I use emacs for mac os. The problem is that I can't
type in {} or [] whit the usual keys, which is shift+options+8/9. How do I
type these characters?

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Mvh Bao Marianna Nguyen

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where are my brackets?

[Bao Marianna Nguyen]

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And I have a norwegian keyboard

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From: Bao Marianna Nguyen <bmarianna@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Subject: where are my brackets?
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org


I have a macbook pro and I use emacs for mac os. The problem is that I can't
type in {} or [] whit the usual keys, which is shift+options+8/9. How do I
type these characters?

-- 
Mvh Bao Marianna Nguyen



-- 
Mvh Bao Marianna Nguyen

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Re: where are my brackets?

[Lennart Borgman]

Maybe by a Swedish keyboard ;-)

Or describe more precisely what happened?


On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Bao Marianna Nguyen
<bmarianna@gmail.com> wrote:
> And I have a norwegian keyboard
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bao Marianna Nguyen <bmarianna@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM
> Subject: where are my brackets?
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>
>
> I have a macbook pro and I use emacs for mac os. The problem is that I can't
> type in {} or [] whit the usual keys, which is shift+options+8/9. How do I
> type these characters?
>
> --
> Mvh Bao Marianna Nguyen
>
>
>
> --
> Mvh Bao Marianna Nguyen
>

Re: where are my brackets?

[Stefan Vollmar]

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Dear Mvh Bao,

this is a fairly typical Mac problem which has been addressed in http://aquamacs.org: the Option menu features an entry ("Option, Command, Meta keys") with presets for a number of keyboard layouts - the "bracket" keys will then work as expected. 

Warm regards,
 Stefan


On 22.09.2010, at 11:46, Bao Marianna Nguyen wrote:

> And I have a norwegian keyboard
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bao Marianna Nguyen <bmarianna@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM
> Subject: where are my brackets?
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> 
> I have a macbook pro and I use emacs for mac os. The problem is that I can't type in {} or [] whit the usual keys, which is shift+options+8/9. How do I type these characters?
> 
> -- 
> Mvh Bao Marianna Nguyen
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mvh Bao Marianna Nguyen

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Re: where are my brackets?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 22.09.2010 um 11:19 schrieb Bao Marianna Nguyen:

> I have a macbook pro and I use emacs for mac os.

Which Emacs are you using? The best answer will probably be provided  
by choosing the "Send Bug Report..." entry from the Help menu (or  
executing the function send-emacs-bug-report). Some "native" Emacsen,  
running without X11, change the Command or Option keys (or modifiers).

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Re: where are my brackets?

[Pascal J. Bourguignon]

Bao Marianna Nguyen <bmarianna@gmail.com> writes:

> I have a macbook pro and I use emacs for mac os. 

I would advise you to buy a more recent Apple computer and try MacOSX.


> The problem is that
> I can't type in {} or [] whit the usual keys, which is
> shift+options+8/9. How do I type these characters?
>
> And I have a norwegian keyboard

That's the bug. 
You've got two solutions:

- either you switch to an american keyboard, 

- or you switch to a norwegian programming language (where we may
  assume {} and [] are not used since they're so hard to type on a
  norwegian keyboard).

Notice that on MacOSX you can easily activate a key-chord to switch
layouts, and they type the bracket you want, and switch back.



Otherwise, in emacs, you could map some other key to them, using key
translations. See: keyboard-translate



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Re: where are my brackets?

[Harald Hanche-Olsen]

+ Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE>:

> Am 22.09.2010 um 11:19 schrieb Bao Marianna Nguyen:
>
>> I have a macbook pro and I use emacs for mac os.
>
> Which Emacs are you using? The best answer will probably be provided
> by choosing the "Send Bug Report..." entry from the Help menu (or
> executing the function send-emacs-bug-report). Some "native" Emacsen,
> running without X11, change the Command or Option keys (or modifiers).

Indeed. They can be changed back, however.
Paraphrasing my .emacs:

(cond ((eq window-system 'ns)
       (setq mac-command-modifier 'meta)
       (setq mac-option-modifier 'none))
      ((and (eq window-system 'mac) (boundp 'aquamacs-version))
       (setq mac-command-modifier 'meta)
       (setq mac-option-modifier nil)))

Putting this in ~/.emacs should fix the problem, at least for two fairly
common emacsen. (I have no idea what is needed with carbon emacs, nor
even how to recognize that version from elisp.)

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