On 11 Jul 2008, at 00:36, Chong Yidong wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> This said, I find that visual-line movement works well *all the time* >> (literally). I've never felt like turning it off and the few times >> I've >> bumped into it unexpectedly, I was positively surprised. >> >> OTOH, I don't think I'd like C-k to work on visual lines (I know I >> hate >> this behavior in Firefox), so maybe we should distinguish the >> screen-line movements (which I could even consider turning on by >> default) from other screen-line operations. > > I agree that it would be good to make this the default, if it works as > well as you say. > The visual editing mode, probably based on David > Reitter's code in some modified form, can go on top of it (like > longlines mode, I think it is useful for editing certain types of > text, > though not all.) We need to make it work properly with point-motion > hooks, though. Would you like to do that? OK, do I understand you right? Basic movement commands (when interactive) on by default as per Stefan's method (which I agree is better given the new feature of vertical-motion), and C-a/C-e/C-k in a minor mode as per my code.