From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: nxml-mode: Derive from prog-mode instead of text-mode Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 07:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4165ea59-dc7e-4112-95b8-10b766bf0d52@default> References: <1494412509.2069441.971865104.0646ACD6@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8337ccbrar.fsf@gnu.org> <1494439153.1311720.972341016.7C2EC66A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83o9v0a66q.fsf@gnu.org> <1494487799.3240345.972964808.43DA610E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <CAArVCkR+jKEu49=H9CQ6jfhV890DQGfZgdVw9=R0KuDfEc_zVw@mail.gmail.com> <87r2zqvmy9.fsf@pokyo> <1494930855.4131543.978121176.7BB5246B@webmail.messagingengine.com> <CAP_d_8Wpgyp=3CHcQD36voYa7S-AqH6JAkN3ZXBFofitrQbuFA@mail.gmail.com> <jwvfug5dmri.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1494943486 10128 195.159.176.226 (16 May 2017 14:04:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 14:04:46 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 16 16:04:43 2017 Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1dAd5b-0002Sr-On for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 May 2017 16:04:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42385 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1dAd5h-0002J1-Bk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 May 2017 10:04:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40973) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@oracle.com>) id 1dAd5W-0002Hh-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 May 2017 10:04:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@oracle.com>) id 1dAd5P-0008Ul-5n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 May 2017 10:04:34 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:37193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@oracle.com>) id 1dAd5O-0008UU-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 May 2017 10:04:27 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v4GE4OLY032628 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <emacs-devel@gnu.org>; Tue, 16 May 2017 14:04:24 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v4GE4NjD029593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <emacs-devel@gnu.org>; Tue, 16 May 2017 14:04:24 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v4GE4NPN031231 for <emacs-devel@gnu.org>; Tue, 16 May 2017 14:04:23 GMT In-Reply-To: <jwvfug5dmri.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6767.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:214885 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/214885> > > This probably could be unified, too. The big difference here is modes > > that are neither text nor programming =E2=80=94 I call them application= modes > > =E2=80=94 such as dired, calendar, or compilation =E2=80=94 because the= y don=E2=80=99t need >=20 > These should supposedly derive from special-mode. Absolutely not, for Dired. It should not derive from special-mode, tabulated-list-mode, or anything else. That's almost like saying that Emacs should derive from special-mode. ;-) (But Stefan has admitted that he rarely uses Dired.)