From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: make bootstrap on CVS head fails Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:26:10 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <413C8192.9080307@gnu.org> References: <200409061416.i86EGx921228@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200409061504.i86F4a921557@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1100839346==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1094484394 5385 80.91.224.253 (6 Sep 2004 15:26:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Luc Teirlinck , ich@Frank-Schmitt.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 06 17:26:21 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C4LNt-0006T4-00 for ; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:26:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C4LT4-0003nn-0I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:31:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C4LSx-0003nY-22 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:31:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C4LSw-0003nF-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:31:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C4LSw-0003nC-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:31:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.207.198.106] (helo=exchange.integrasp.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C4LNi-00013s-Kq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ASSP-nospam (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by exchange.integrasp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id SBWN63W8; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:26:09 +0100 Original-Received: from 192.168.111.196 ([192.168.111.196] helo=[192.168.111.196]) by ASSP-nospam ; 6 Sep 04 15:26:09 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: "Kim F. Storm" In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26827 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26827 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1100839346== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050705030205000507080908" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050705030205000507080908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kim F. Storm wrote: >Luc Teirlinck writes: > > >>Frank-Schmitt wrote: >> >> If this is necessary before a bootstrap, why doesn't bootstrap depend on >> maintainer-clean? >> >>It used to, but that was changed to make bootstrapping run faster at >>the expense of an occasional failure. (Personally, I believe that >>change was a mistake.) >> >> > >I agree that bootstrap should do maintainer-clean. > > I wasn't aware of the change so I was a bit confused by the original report. If you want to compile faster, use "make recompile" to recompile the .elc files followed by a normal "make". The cases where recompile is not enough and bootstrap is really necessary are probably the same cases of "occasional failure" above. --------------050705030205000507080908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kim F. Storm wrote:
Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu> writes:
  
Frank-Schmitt wrote:

   If this is necessary before a bootstrap, why doesn't bootstrap depend on
   maintainer-clean?

It used to, but that was changed to make bootstrapping run faster at
the expense of an occasional failure.  (Personally, I believe that
change was a mistake.)
    

I agree that bootstrap should do maintainer-clean.
I wasn't aware of the change so I was a bit confused by the original report. If you want to compile faster, use "make recompile" to recompile the .elc files followed by a normal "make".

The cases where recompile is not enough and bootstrap is really necessary are probably the same cases of "occasional failure" above.

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