user-mail-address adds from, not replace

user-mail-address adds from, not replace

[MattR]

Hi,

I'm moving from emacs 20.7.1 with VM to 21.3.1 with the corresponding 
VM. On the older system I set mail-default-reply-to and 
user-mail-address to my desired email address, send mail from vm, and 
the mail looks like it's coming from my isp. On the newer emacs (stock 
from suse 9.1) it doesn't work.  I looked and the headers on the older 
version have, at the end

   From: <rosing@myisp.com>
   To: rosing@myisp.com
   Subject: from 2.20
   Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:47:43 -0600

and the headers on the new version have

   User-Agent: nail 10.6 11/15/03
   MIME-Version: 1.0
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
   From: rosing@quack.homenet (Matt)

   From: Matt <rosing@myisp.com>
   MIME-Version: 1.0
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
   Message-ID: <16678.48037.216231.227197@quack.homenet>
   Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:04:05 -0600
   To: rosing@myisp.com
   Subject: default headers
   X-Mailer: VM 7.18 under Emacs 21.3.1
   Reply-To: rosing@myisp.com

It looks like the new version added the results from  user-mail-address 
but put it after the default for my machine (quack.homenet). Rmail does 
the same thing. My isp reads the first from line and rejects the mail as 
spam.  What do I do?

thanks,

Matt

Re: user-mail-address adds from, not replace

[Kevin Rodgers]

MattR wrote:
 > I'm moving from emacs 20.7.1 with VM to 21.3.1 with the corresponding
 > VM. On the older system I set mail-default-reply-to and
 > user-mail-address to my desired email address, send mail from vm, and
 > the mail looks like it's coming from my isp. On the newer emacs (stock
 > from suse 9.1) it doesn't work.  I looked and the headers on the older
 > version have, at the end
...
 > It looks like the new version added the results from  user-mail-address
 > but put it after the default for my machine (quack.homenet). Rmail does
 > the same thing. My isp reads the first from line and rejects the mail as
 > spam.  What do I do?

What does `C-h v send-mail-function' say in Emacs 20 vs 21?

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

Re: user-mail-address adds from, not replace

[MattR]

emacs 20:

  send-mail-function's value is
  sendmail-send-it

  Documentation:
  Function to call to send the current buffer as mail.
  The headers should be delimited by a line which is
  not a valid RFC822 header or continuation line.

  Defined in `sendmail'.

emacs 21:

  smtpmail-send-it

  <other stuff deleted>

BUT...

I pulled postfix and inserted sendmail as the MTA and now things work. I 
had to set send-mail-function to smtpmail-send-it to get the mail to go 
through my isp's mail machine.

I've never used postfix before.  Is there a reason why it adds the extra 
stuff, or a way to fix it?

Matt



Kevin Rodgers wrote:

> What does `C-h v send-mail-function' say in Emacs 20 vs 21?
> 

Re: user-mail-address adds from, not replace

[Kevin Rodgers]

[Please don't top-post.]

MattR wrote:
 > emacs 20:
 >
 >  send-mail-function's value is
 >  sendmail-send-it
 >
 >  Documentation:
 >  Function to call to send the current buffer as mail.
 >  The headers should be delimited by a line which is
 >  not a valid RFC822 header or continuation line.
 >
 >  Defined in `sendmail'.
 >
 > emacs 21:
 >
 >  smtpmail-send-it
 >
 >  <other stuff deleted>
 >
 > BUT...
 >
 > I pulled postfix and inserted sendmail as the MTA and now things work. I
 > had to set send-mail-function to smtpmail-send-it to get the mail to go
 > through my isp's mail machine.

What is postfix?  It's not mentioned anywhere above.  See the comments
at the top of smtpmail.el on how to configure smtpmail-send-it
correctly.  It doesn't need any external program to work, it talks
directly to server the via SMTP.

 > I've never used postfix before.  Is there a reason why it adds the extra
 > stuff, or a way to fix it?

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

Re: user-mail-address adds from, not replace

[Matt]

Kevin Rodgers wrote:

> [Please don't top-post.]

why not? Sometimes it makes sense.


> What is postfix?  It's not mentioned anywhere above.  See the comments

postfix is similar to sendmail.

> at the top of smtpmail.el on how to configure smtpmail-send-it
> correctly.  It doesn't need any external program to work, it talks
> directly to server the via SMTP.

Now I think I understand. I didn't use smtpmail-send-it on my old machine,
it found sendmail, and sendmail worked.  On the new system it used postfix,
didn't work, I pulled postfix, put in sendmail, and at the same time put in
smptpmail-send-it. So I don't need sendmail but I might put it back in
anyway.

Thanks,

Matt