From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Thinking of Converting to EShell - Opinions? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:17:31 -0600 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <412275EB.1090308@yahoo.com> References: <1092764940.460278@sj-nntpcache-5> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1092777686 23303 80.91.224.253 (17 Aug 2004 21:21:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 17 23:21:19 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BxBOR-0007kV-00 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:21:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BxBSc-0000Qb-4r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:25:38 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de rCUWJ+lH+5pmbL4d5MLmGgx0Y76xNE6V1Hwo5H9CIjQLU98Ss= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020406 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.emacs:85852 gnu.emacs.help:124812 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:20159 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:20159 Tennis Smith wrote: > I've used tcsh for years. But it looks like the eshell is finally mature > enough to be a good alternative. Is it? Can you use it on a daily basis > without having to switch back? Is the conversion worth the effort? I don't know about eshell. But if you're willing to use a shell under Emacs, it would be worth the effort to switch to bash[1], ksh[2], or zsh[3]. That way, you're using a shell whose interactive features are at least as good as csh/tcsh, with the same syntax and capabilities as a system scripting language[4][5] -- plus you have all of Emacs' shell/comint features. [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/bash.html [2] http://www.kornshell.com/ [3] http://zsh.sunsite.dk/ [4] http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ [5] http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/CshTop10.txt -- Kevin Rodgers