From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stanton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8924: 23.3; Editing is rather difficult using vc with RCS backend Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:46:43 -0700 Message-ID: <40C7B1BFC291ED4E9D10436D07736A3346F8B2DE5F@EXMAIL7.haas.uc.berkeley.edu> References: <40C7B1BFC291ED4E9D10436D07736A3346F8B2DCC1@EXMAIL7.haas.uc.berkeley.edu> <8362nvvbeu.fsf@gnu.org> <40C7B1BFC291ED4E9D10436D07736A3346F8B2DDEB@EXMAIL7.haas.uc.berkeley.edu> <83wrgbta7w.fsf@gnu.org> <40C7B1BFC291ED4E9D10436D07736A3346F8B2DE20@EXMAIL7.haas.uc.berkeley.edu> <83tybft52b.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308948523 13864 80.91.229.12 (24 Jun 2011 20:48:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "8924@debbugs.gnu.org" <8924@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 24 22:48:36 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDIp-0006ed-Nr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:48:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53293 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDIo-0004vm-QU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:48:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33335) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDIL-0004n0-2Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:48:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDIJ-0007H5-LN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDIJ-0007Gw-7r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDII-0003ar-8j; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:48:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stanton Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8924 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8924-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8924.130894846613791 (code B ref 8924); Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8924) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2011 20:47:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDI1-0003aO-Lm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:47:46 -0400 Original-Received: from gateway-b.haas.berkeley.edu ([128.32.222.40]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDHy-0003aB-IO for 8924@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:47:43 -0400 X-SBRS: 2.9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,421,1304319600"; d="scan'208";a="18951902" Original-Received: from lb2-i.haas.berkeley.edu (HELO cas-a.haas.uc.berkeley.edu) ([128.32.222.31]) by gateway-b.haas.berkeley.edu with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 24 Jun 2011 13:47:34 -0700 Original-Received: from EXMAIL7.haas.uc.berkeley.edu ([128.32.222.8]) by cas-a.haas.uc.berkeley.edu ([128.32.222.49]) with mapi; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:47:35 -0700 Thread-Topic: bug#8924: 23.3; Editing is rather difficult using vc with RCS backend Thread-Index: Acwyo4ssUWTriQbVT+SFV79yhvebCAACyZOw In-Reply-To: <83tybft52b.fsf@gnu.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:48:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47443 Archived-At: > From: Eli Zaretskii [mailto:eliz@gnu.org] > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:15 PM > To: Richard Stanton > Cc: 8924@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: Re: bug#8924: 23.3; Editing is rather difficult using vc with RC= S > backend >=20 > > I may well be missing something obvious, but I can't find an RCS port a= t the > GnuWin32 site. >=20 > Looks like they removed it. Perhaps because I reported a few bad bugs wi= th > their port. I actually use a fixed port I built myself; I should have me= ntioned > that, sorry. I did a little more testing, and it looks like the problem is indeed a Cygw= in vs. non-Cygwin issue. On first checking in the file, I reported that the= buffer remains read/write while the file itself is read-only. It turns out= there's a little more to it: I reported it being read-only after running the (Cygwin) ls command: C:\projects\test\version\rcstest>ls -l test.tex -r-x------+ 1 stanton None 84 Jun 24 13:40 test.tex However, DOS doesn't see it as read-only, which explains why Emacs leaves t= he buffer writable: C:\projects\test\version\rcstest>attrib test.tex A C:\projects\test\version\rcstest\test.tex If I manually set the file to read only using attrib +R, then reload the fi= le into Emacs, a. The buffer is now read-only, and I can't edit it until I press C-x v v a= gain to check it out. Now everything works OK. b. The $Id$ header issue has also gone away. So it seems to be an inconsistency between the way DOS and Cygwin keep trac= k of file attributes. Now I just need to track down a working non-Cygwin ve= rsion of RCS... Thanks for all your help.