From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming NEWS Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 02:46:09 -0400 Message-ID: <40646l9wzy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <17989.37070.393150.565546@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17994.32856.216525.50726@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17994.54868.931947.611990@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17995.31640.399794.621018@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17995.53754.860573.633945@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17996.55425.495501.592760@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17998.5626.348375.91578@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17998.45589.625578.730270@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17999.58366.589991.627229@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <0l8xbjgsq4.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <87iran41xo.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <86veemk1o5.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179816385 18073 80.91.229.12 (22 May 2007 06:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 06:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Nick Roberts , Miles Bader To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 22 08:46:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HqO8S-00081C-PA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 08:46:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqO8S-0000Ra-Ee for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 02:46:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HqO8P-0000RT-9J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 02:46:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HqO8O-0000R4-Jl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 02:46:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqO8O-0000R1-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 02:46:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HqO8N-0000jJ-Pe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 02:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HqO8I-0003Ze-6K; Tue, 22 May 2007 02:46:10 -0400 X-Spook: arrangements Ft. Meade counter terrorism NSA Waco, Texas X-Ran: ;j?VN6`Co!RoRk|P]>dMj=/@PyL+*LCA8{T0-k-;K_!v`3@%3TJ'1r}yDBDO]*6V/0o2*> X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <86veemk1o5.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon, 21 May 2007 10:42:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71576 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> It also seems time (again, as Kim said earlier) for a fresh >> lisp/ChangeLog and a new lisp/ChangeLog.12. The right thing to do here >> is create ChangeLog.12 as a new file with no arch tag, and move most >> of the current contents of ChangeLog there, right? > > Including moving the arch tag, I suppose. No, leaving the arch tag in lisp/ChangeLog would seem to make more sense to me. Anyone who is using this tag must expect it to refer to the "current lisp ChangeLog", not some random ChangeLog.NN. ChangeLog.12, which will almost never be used, should get a new arch tag. > I don't think we really should sync anything from the release branch > for now. Fixes should make their way from the trunk to the release > branch, not the other way round. It has happened the other way around ever since the branch was created, and continues to do so. > And they should be few enough that synching them manually between > ChangeLog and ChangeLog should be workable People seem to find Miles' automated merging of changes from release branch to trunk useful. > (arch would presumably want to synch between ChangeLog.12 and > ChangeLog). Which is why I don't think the arch tag should be moved to ChangeLog.12. >> What do people think the best split date is? The base of the release >> branch, or perhaps 2006-12-31, to match ChangeLog.11? > > Base of release branch would be my preference. Mine too, I think.