From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:28:22 -0500 Message-ID: <40140663-cd4e-59fd-7742-0c5d8438de3c@gmail.com> References: <54AAC13A-CF56-4393-A932-DC6CBBF51259@raeburn.org> <3CC6BB36-1794-4202-8243-132E0345B236@raeburn.org> <52BDCC33-546C-4F47-A230-00EBC813B038@raeburn.org> <15CF14CC-C7DE-44BA-AC7D-F0BF1F160979@raeburn.org> <9463F91F-DB82-48E1-BE01-1E2BC8DA0766@raeburn.org> <5b39d866-16ea-8cf1-f25e-6bfc3304ac2a@cornell.edu> <16B1EC9C-9BF7-432E-BE42-154740B04679@raeburn.org> <00AE6236-2C0B-4E2A-8A53-16A5C42D41A9@raeburn.org> <75C18644-F7C8-4164-BA46-CD73F4E39A93@raeburn.org> <83y3zh7ylv.fsf@gnu.org> <2a14736a-f26d-5d6e-d58e-cfa8870d456e@gmail.com> <83vauk8g1s.fsf@gnu.org> <838trg7xb4.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u8CccAi42cXruVgGJvxuXQfVBaGAGWIwv" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481902132 2688 195.159.176.226 (16 Dec 2016 15:28:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:28:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 16 16:28:49 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHuRE-00088R-3P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:28:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32835 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHuRI-0007TL-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:28:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55946) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHuR7-0007Ii-7C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:28:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHuR3-0003Mj-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:28:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]:64503) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHuR2-0003LA-UY; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:28:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [128.30.10.174] ([128.30.10.174]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104 [212.227.15.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LxOmo-1cguT23LJa-016yl1; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:28:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <838trg7xb4.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:PvtbP/XbaPG8CJMNUwgaviRy8kBBAn+/XijpoUJJS8ebqrUSHMD g3/PVdeiO9vvBmouroxnFKiRCZFgdD7uMhjjsT1vb5DE7XCsIkgx9ejVezdkgnoJ00/bJ7p kImAg1D/TnwxRnswZYvqyNZjtC3EGL8kkRJuai3eJYaoFVKOVhJ9Bg252NS0aSEKwXyjXZM uIcU/0hjmqRozSHWNKE7A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:uz1NjriqQFs=:3TU/BmIFWQdLjunKelLLZw 8afGY7l+NPhyrTu1TUfqoElJD7XADTMf1Pgilw1XsMjrfyTYhkFX8rhRdXK6NwrnmTSvpE15x 5NvJutB3pnjpzpPxuK+wbEC6Vg5vvrEHua5nGr9BahBWyICgdSxVtg98540W/thxifqvmOaum U7ccsrYlLUwYvQaZEW6Z4VWMzbkEtqg2kdpq2LFzFnT2e+JgwYQ9kdnhPSnvL9pzKKtIX+Xst RCqe9oG+4rGoIiFGwRhwrFLiA6z2ZY1os/bw/1cl5QedSioWy0qoRiyZJkHW5dBMIQ+0GjUr3 Jw5pAVGMGlyy128QMSuvA5aMPb/5q5Me65oUwhA1EfKuCkEgIpr5phVAlpcnGa/x+wr2UuFAf MHMPvlSZGBi4pm1RXoBoDT4dMSLxpG2w2bD+VN1aiEYQmSe4RAmA3x3fdU9kPidB/sHM/9lc+ AzHYuDPVts2Cmah7O/VQfWB+rS0xqvHRkfxM65u/K3gX98UxQSTBfmF2qvPABx7NOt3+FtaGY BZzeGzrje+TTt7ELnx3pUZCO7TrEbxNo9cFDgTKEFA/S22ee/ejSEEY+e41XNsgLZVBSYr0ys wWCWKjNr6EDnKNONpuRqmWHYfNNJIKC58GicRNPSR+Exscz4xE7avA8EV+P9lOjblEO4kmOx9 xL8q4z45AKyKHHWjBh6QUr3k5eLo+glNWNzWa7LGf8N7YX+Qre5K7ELFHzo+waqwsdTQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210520 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --u8CccAi42cXruVgGJvxuXQfVBaGAGWIwv Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MVwl9FlNwJEbckuJKTP8iFFlFRHlnbqVv"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Message-ID: <40140663-cd4e-59fd-7742-0c5d8438de3c@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file References: <075B0922-F07A-4FBA-AE71-027E964A5ED4@raeburn.org> <54AAC13A-CF56-4393-A932-DC6CBBF51259@raeburn.org> <3CC6BB36-1794-4202-8243-132E0345B236@raeburn.org> <52BDCC33-546C-4F47-A230-00EBC813B038@raeburn.org> <15CF14CC-C7DE-44BA-AC7D-F0BF1F160979@raeburn.org> <9463F91F-DB82-48E1-BE01-1E2BC8DA0766@raeburn.org> <5b39d866-16ea-8cf1-f25e-6bfc3304ac2a@cornell.edu> <16B1EC9C-9BF7-432E-BE42-154740B04679@raeburn.org> <00AE6236-2C0B-4E2A-8A53-16A5C42D41A9@raeburn.org> <75C18644-F7C8-4164-BA46-CD73F4E39A93@raeburn.org> <83y3zh7ylv.fsf@gnu.org> <2a14736a-f26d-5d6e-d58e-cfa8870d456e@gmail.com> <83vauk8g1s.fsf@gnu.org> <838trg7xb4.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <838trg7xb4.fsf@gnu.org> --MVwl9FlNwJEbckuJKTP8iFFlFRHlnbqVv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-12-16 09:39, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claudel >> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:28:37 -0500 >> >>> Autoloading should fix that. This idea won't work anyway without >>> adding the relevant symbols to loaddefs.el. >> >> Indeed; but then we need to autoload all functions in these files, rig= ht? >=20 > Not sure about "all", but most of them, yes. And variables. >=20 >> Also, does autoloading work for macros? >=20 > It doesn't, but why would macros be a problem? They need to be seen > by the byte compiler when it compiles the package, not when the > package is loaded. Right; but won't we have a problem when package.el compiles newly downloa= ded packages that depend on formerly autoloaded libraries? 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