From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pierre Chanial Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving the gtk2 port Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:31:54 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <400C76FA.1080600@verizon.net> References: <400C5199.1040100@verizon.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1074559716 31309 80.91.224.253 (20 Jan 2004 00:48:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 20 01:48:31 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aik4F-0003zA-00 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:48:31 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aik4F-0004aU-00 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:48:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Aik3P-00065b-Ja for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:47:39 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Aijzu-00058G-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AijzB-0004mR-Kw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:43:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [206.46.170.131] (helo=out009.verizon.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AijxF-00045X-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:41:17 -0500 Original-Received: from verizon.net ([138.88.149.172]) by out009.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040120004116.CCZO11926.out009.verizon.net@verizon.net>; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:41:16 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: fr, en, en-us Original-To: "Kim F. Storm" In-Reply-To: X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out009.verizon.net from [138.88.149.172] at Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:41:15 -0600 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19312 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19312 Kim F. Storm wrote: > Pierre Chanial writes: >>- on the content area, even outside of the text, the mouse cursor >> should not be an arrow but a |--| rotated 90° > This was changed recently (to show the arrow in non-text areas). > > Besides my personal preference for this behaviour, a major reason > for this change was that many other applications behave like that > -- including Mozilla 1.2.1 (the one I'm using). but mozilla behaves like that only in non editable content. Text areas and compose windows don't show an arrow outside of the text. Which applications are you referring to? LyX, openoffice (not a good example of integration), gedit and also gtk2 single and multi lines text areas behave like moz. > When (and why) did Mozilla change that ? That's too old :) I'd point you to try out 1.6 or Mozilla Firebird, lot of performance stuff has been achieved. I'd guess the reason is that in non editable content, mouse pointer changes notify the user he/she can or can not select the text. But even if I found distracting the change of the mouse cursor in emacs, that's still a fairly minor issue, maybe because I rarely use the mouse.