From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arjan Bos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:00:43 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3f7ac211$0$34892$1b62eedf@news.wanadoo.nl> References: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> Reply-To: Arjan.Bos@ISeeYou.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065032572 11998 80.91.224.253 (1 Oct 2003 18:22:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 01 20:22:50 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4lcg-0001LZ-00 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:22:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4hiK-0003Lk-Kl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:12:24 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!skynet.be!skynet.be!newshub1.home.nl!home.nl!nntpfeed-01.ops.asmr-01.energis-idc.net!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 01 Oct 2003 12:01:28 GMT Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p4090.vwr.wanadoo.nl Original-X-Trace: 1065009688 willi.euronet.nl 34892 212.129.234.2:28797 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:116989 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12922 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12922 Barman Brakjoller wrote: > From the Emacs tutorial (C-h t): > > "You can also move the cursor with the arrow keys, if your terminal > has > arrow keys. We recommend learning C-b, C-f, C-n and C-p for three > reasons. First, they work on all kinds of terminals. Second, once > you gain practice at using Emacs, you will find that typing these > Control > characters is faster than typing the arrow keys (because you do not > have to move your hands away from touch-typing position). Third, > once > you form the habit of using these Control character commands, you can > easily learn to use other advanced cursor motion commands as well." > > Is it worth it? I'm using Emacs on w32 and Linux and are quite happy > with my arrow keys, but the argument above about not having to move > away from the main part of the keyboard sounds logical. > > I would like to know about you other guys and gals experiences. I'm using both. For example when I want to delete all characters of a certain column I just go C-d C-n which is quit fast. To transfer a line to a few lines above, I go C-a C-k C-k C-p C-p C-p C-y. In both examples I continue to hold down the CTRL key with my right-hand pink. But when I want to identify a small region I'd like to do TAB Cursor-down TAB Cursor-down, etc. [1] Arjan [1] I know I can identify a region, but this way I get more satisfaction by actually seeing what happens.